Help for two gold imperial badges

[Kelenfold]

Hello
Can you give me your opinion on these two badges ?
Thanks You

Gaëtan

[kevin john]

For me they are fine originals,although the cut out one has a different set up as is usually seen.John.

[Hans N]

1st one is original but not so shure about the 2nd one with out seeing better photos of the hardware, type/design of the catch etc

[Kelenfold]

Hello
Thank you for your message.
I will see to have more photos quickly.
thanks again

Gaëtan

[Kelenfold]

here is more photo

Gaëtan

[toot]

I rely like them both. especially the JEWELERS COPY, CUT OUT! I like all cut out badges! a great score!

[Kelenfold]

I rely like them both. especially the JEWELERS COPY, CUT OUT! I like all cut out badges! a great score!

Hello Forgive me but I don't quite understand. For you these are copy ?

[Hans N]

2nd one is a S&L but a black grade that has been stripped of the black finish!

[Kelenfold]

Hi
Thank you very much for your help, that's very nice
I'll give this one up.
thanks again

Gaëtan

[toot]

Kelenfold, I did not mean that a jewelers copy was in no way not a real badge. that is a, I guess a wrong term that is some times used. sorry if you misinterpreted what I said, sorry for any confusion that I caused.