Schwarz code 3 for reviews

[Feinzink59]

Hello,

I just received this badge, code 3, for the manufacturer Wilheim Deumer.

I would like to have your opinion on:

- Presence of 2 "nipples", on the back, between the 2 quillons of the sword, is it systematic or does it correspond to a particular period for this manufacturer?

- The side of the badge is not identical along the entire length, it seems voluntary, is this a unique practice of this manufacturer?

François.

[kevin john]

Nice original in good condition John.

[Hans N]

Indeed a good one

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Francois,

Nice original Deumer as the others have said. Here is mine for comparison. I am not sure what those two dots are above the catch, they are not on my example nor any of the other Deumers I have on file. They don't seem to have finish in them either, so I am wondering if it was something done postwar by chance, or atleast after it left the factory after receiving its black finish.

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[Feinzink59]

Thank you for your feedback, very nice Thomas badge.

By looking to the right and to the left, I realized that when the marking is next to the cross no dots above the hook. On the other hand, when the marking is lower at the level of the helmet line, there is the presence of these 2 points.

Obviously, it's 2 different matrices, but that doesn't tell us the period.

François.

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Francois,

Here is another one with lower maker mark, but I don't see evidence of the dot by the sword hilt like yours.

Can you tell if these marks on yours are raised on the reverse? Or are they sunken?

Tom

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[Feinzink59]

Hi Thomas,

The case becomes more complicated, the 2 points are raised on the reverse.

I am attaching a new photo on another angle to better see the relief

Francois

[Hans N]

Totally missed those dots when looking at the badge at work! There are 2 more things that makes me ponder with this one as well when studying it closer.
The side profile of the badge is uneven almost sloped from the hinge down to the catch and looking from the reverse the rim has a uneven thickness as well

[Hans N]

Found one in my files

[Feinzink59]

Hello Hans,

It was also in my questions, at the initiative of the post, concerning the profile:

"- The side of the badge is not identical along the entire length, it seems voluntary, is this a unique practice of this manufacturer?"

François

[Thomas Durante]

Interesting that the dots are raised. And the one Hans shows also seems to have raised dots, but in different locations thatn Francois' Also with the low maker mark, so perhaps this is an odd feature of low-marked Deumer Wound Badges.

Anyone else have a low-marked "3" badge in their files for us to compare? I am betting Ronny has atleast 5 of these

Tom

[Mike Kenny]

I have one of the stamped 3 Deumer variants. There are no "raised dots" above the catch, but a lot of solder has been used to attached the ? catch. My guess is that the "raised dots" on Deumer VWAs that use the ? catch are just solder spots from "sloppy" jobs.

[Ronny.R]

Hi Guys

I see no problem with the badge, and I think it might be a simple explanation for
the "dot's" just a poor solder job, the dot's is just leftover solder. I agree with Mike on this one

I only have one with the low 3, the low 3's are stamped maker marks and the high 3 is raise

Cheers,
Ronny

[Shaver]

Hello gents,

the solder joint is very dirty. I think it's splashes of the additive.

Regards Shaver

[Shaver]

Here is my WB.