Fake low rim black wound badge, black wound badge or hollow back gold?

[akriener]

This was in a lot of some other items I picked up at an estate sale. There were some other fakes peppered in with real items so I wouldn't be surprised if this one was bad. Was reading about the low back fake black badge and I noticed the following:

1. Lighter compared to my other black wound badge
2. Size appears smaller than my other black wound badge
3. Thicker lines in the leaves
4. Thicker cross guards

But I also noticed:
1. Has a rear rivet - None of the fakes in https://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/for...e-low-rim-fake have a rear rivet

This thread talks about hollow back gold wound badges being legitimate, though rare: https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/verwu...w-gold-659843/

I also feel this could be just a regular black wound badge as well given the black on the back, should it be legitimate. It is also unmarked from what I've seen. Would love comments. Thanks!

My current black:
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My gold:
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Questionable one:
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[Hans N]

Thats because it is not a Low Rim fake, wrong design. Yours is original from what i can see

[Thomas Durante]

I agree with Hans, none of these are low-rim fakes. All your badges are original as far as I can see.

Here is a low rim fake for your files, courtesy of Ronny's previous post on the subject.

Tom

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[akriener]

To be clear I am only asking about the hollow back gold one, no concerns about the other in my collection.

That being said, do you feel it is a hollow back gold (many of its details are similar to my solid back gold) or just another black due to the back being black (even though there’s smatterings of gold color on the clasp and pin attachment). I am aware that gold colored black badges exist.


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[Frontmil]

It is a black one. Unmarked with the paint removed.

regards,

seb

[kevin john]

Agree with Seb,it is a black wound badge that has lost most of its colour.

[akriener]

Great, thanks all!

[Thomas Durante]

I think Seb and Kevin are spot on, the hollow is a black wound badge with most of its black finish removed. You can still see some specks of black finish remaining on the obverse and ofcourse the reverse still has most of the black finish.

Tom

[akriener]

I think Seb and Kevin are spot on, the hollow is a black wound badge with most of its black finish removed. You can still see some specks of black finish remaining on the obverse and ofcourse the reverse still has most of the black finish.

Tom

Good eye Tom, thanks. It sounds like true hollow back wound badges are very dubious. I was just really taken aback by how light it was and the construction seemed flimsier. This only cost me $20 so I can live with that.

[Ronny.R]

Yes it's a black one and $20 is not a loss even with the paint loss
I really like your gold 65 and the box too, not an easy one to find

Cheers,
Ronny

[akriener]

Yes it's a black one and $20 is not a loss even with the paint loss
I really like your gold 65 and the box too, not an easy one to find

Cheers,
Ronny

Thanks Ronny! I actually got the all black one, gold one and this silver for $150 in the same lot at an estate.

[Ronny.R]

$150? Wow there are still nice deals to make out there, congrats