Party badge M1/66

[peterm]

Hi guys!

I would be interested in Your opinions on this "M1/66"-party badge. Enamel errors on "A" at the left side (no enamel in the center), part of a "T" on the right side seems to be over-enamelled. Never had a "66" so far...

Many thanks in advance and kind regards,

Peter

[peterm]

Really no opinions, guys! Personally I don't see a problem...

Best, Peter

[jimmy72]

I don't own this style of M1/66 but I compared to one on Jo's site and they are very similar . Yours almost looks as though the reverse has been chemical cleaned of corrosion , just looks odd. I would shoot a pic to the parteiabzeichen.ch and get Jo's thoughts if your so inclined. Thanks for posting it !

[Eric Broome]

It is well made. Looks like a later badge well into the standardized period by the very uniform letters and spacing. The ends of the letters being rounded is normally indicative of a machine cut die and that can often be a sign of trouble on some bagdes, but later standardized ones like this often look this way to me. The enamel errors are a little troubling but I don't have a 66 yet so I don't have anything to compare it to in hand. The number of enamel errors is troubling the T is covered, the inside of the A is missing enamel. All three periods in between the DAP are covered and so is the hyphen between the E and P. More troubling is the many bubbles all over the enamel in the red, black and white. If these spots are something else on the photo and not bubbles, then my apologies. This one is very hard to call definitively Peterm, I agree that you should take it to the expert for his opinion. All of the enamel issues are troubling for me, but the badge was made from a very well made die with good background pattern and lettering. I don't like the pin attachment being so shiny and new looking but it could be from chemical cleaning as Jimmy72 mentioned.

Gun to my head, I would probably walk away from this one, but I may very well have missed out on a good badge that I didn't know enough about. Sorry if I cast more doubt on you. Post on parteiabzeichen.ch and get a definitive answer you can count on. Good luck.

[sirgmfk]

Good badge!

[jimmy72]

Right on guys

[peterm]

Many thanks for Your comments, guys! Especially to Eric for his long and interesting statement. Eric, please don't forget that this is a 800dpi-scanned item. Most members here are posting much "smaller" pics on which one can't see all the tiny scratches and other mistakes so easily. I also forgot to mention that the badge is magnetic.
For the moment I will keep it in my collection.

Thanks again and kind regards, Peter

[slados28]

Not seeing any problems with this one. Iron planchet variant by Fritz Kohm, probably cleaned--- likely made the same year that they lost their M1 license, 1935. Here's one I used to have

[slados28]

duplicate post

[Eric Broome]

No problem, I am not an old hand at these but I have been studying them exclusively for several months now. These are the only badges I collect anymore, I am hooked. I went and looked up the 66s archived on the site we mentioned and there's one there with eisen planchet that matches yours perfectly. I should have just went and looked there first before responding. It's definitely good. Sorry to have cast doubt at it.

[Eric Broome]

Slados28, your badge has a lot of bubbles in the enamel also, they must have had the kiln cranked up at that shop. It's normal to see bubbles under the surface but so many surface bubbles is not something I have seen a lot. Nice badge.

[slados28]

Slados28, your badge has a lot of bubbles in the enamel also, they must have had the kiln cranked up at that shop. It's normal to see bubbles under the surface but so many surface bubbles is not something I have seen a lot. Nice badge.

Thank you but it's not with me anymore --- I have abandoned the RZM M1's and now only have transitional and early badges.

Yes, I am guessing there was a definite reason for this maker to have lost his license at such a relatively early stage, I don't see too many other makers displaying these shoddy traits, although the design and all looks nice enough--- a couple of the M1/109 Glaser badges I had were also on iron planchets and displayed similar problems with the silverwash stuck in dimples/bubbles all over the enameled surface. Definitely an oddity.

[peterm]

Many thanks for showing Your ex-badge too, Slados28! Very helpful!

Best regards, Peter

[Eric Broome]

Thank you but it's not with me anymore --- I have abandoned the RZM M1's and now only have transitional and early badges.

Yes, I am guessing there was a definite reason for this maker to have lost his license at such a relatively early stage, I don't see too many other makers displaying these shoddy traits, although the design and all looks nice enough--- a couple of the M1/109 Glaser badges I had were also on iron planchets and displayed similar problems with the silverwash stuck in dimples/bubbles all over the enameled surface. Definitely an oddity.

Maybe that's the issue. I hadn't thought of that until you mentioned the 109 on iron planchet. Maybe the iron heats up more so than the messing planchets and causes the bubbling? That's worth thinking about. Good info. BTW, I like the transitionals too, they just don't show up for sale nearly as often as the m1s. Heck, I like em all including the propaganda badges also. Thanks for the info and photos.

[slados28]

You're welcome, Peter!

Eric; the thought kind of crossed my mind also but, then again, I claim no expertise in the field of metallurgy so it would be pure speculation on my part.

I will admit, I like them all too, only that for me it became kind of a pointless numbers game after a while with the M1 badges as they are all near identical looking... at least at normal display distance showing the obverse.
So, I took the decision of selling them off and instead focusing on collecting all of the above--- I think I only have a single M1 right now and that one is still here only because it was part of a Blockleiter's document grouping so I'm not going to break it up. Mint condition would probably be the only reason I would pick up an M1 nowadays but they're far and few between also, relatively speaking.