Hj badges for review

[CIANO]

Dear All,


Herewith some HJ Bages for your opinions.
Some are unmarked.

Any red flag?

Thank you

[sirgmfk]

If the TOP middle HJ diamond marked Otto Hoffmann it is fake.

[CIANO]

If the TOP middle HJ diamond marked Otto Hoffmann it is fake.

ok, and why do you say that? What is wrong?
The others ok?

regards

[Wim Vangossum]

The Otto Hoffmann exist in all colors of the rainbow. The red -white has as least the correct color, but like said all Otto Hoffmann's are fakes. Be very careful when buying small enamel badges. It's a real mine field. Plenty of fakes plus a whole lot of badges which are controversial. The M1-14 maker mark on a shooting badge is such an example. Some enamel collectors (like me) have their doubts that this maker ever made a good HJ shooting award. I got a perfect enameled M1/14 in my drawer, once bought as original but turned out to be a fake. It has burn marks of the torch that was used to solder the pin plate. There are many M1/14's out there with these burn marks and they are not good.


Regards, Wim

[CIANO]

The Otto Hoffmann exist in all colors of the rainbow. The red -white has as least the correct color, but like said all Otto Hoffmann's are fakes. Be very careful when buying small enamel badges. It's a real mine field. Plenty of fakes plus a whole lot of badges which are controversial. The M1-14 maker mark on a shooting badge is such an example. Some enamel collectors (like me) have their doubts that this maker ever made a good HJ shooting award. I got a perfect enameled M1/14 in my drawer, once bought as original but turned out to be a fake. It has burn marks of the torch that was used to solder the pin plate. There are many M1/14's out there with these burn marks and they are not good.


Regards, Wim

Thank you Wim for your input. We are always learning....
One more question regarding the HJ shooting award...the M 1/120 marked on the reverse can be seen or considered as an original badge?

Regards

[Wim Vangossum]

Thank you Wim for your input. We are always learning....
One more question regarding the HJ shooting award...the M 1/120 marked on the reverse can be seen or considered as an original badge?

Regards

As far as I know, yes

[Wim Vangossum]

example of those burn marks around the pin plate, this time on a fake M1/129.

[warmilitary]

The Otto Hoffmann exist in all colors of the rainbow. The red -white has as least the correct color, but like said all Otto Hoffmann's are fakes. Be very careful when buying small enamel badges. It's a real mine field. Plenty of fakes plus a whole lot of badges which are controversial. The M1-14 maker mark on a shooting badge is such an example. Some enamel collectors (like me) have their doubts that this maker ever made a good HJ shooting award. I got a perfect enameled M1/14 in my drawer, once bought as original but turned out to be a fake. It has burn marks of the torch that was used to solder the pin plate. There are many M1/14's out there with these burn marks and they are not good.


Regards, Wim

So I agree a lot is M1 / 14 fake