MEXIKO Stadt....Cased Badge

[RonR]

For your review and comments......

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78

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910

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1112

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1314

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[Bob Hritz]

Nice piece, Ron.

I do not think it was ever in OMSA Journal and no photo of it being worn. Now, wait for the flak to hit. Or, is it just items I own that cannot be original?

Good luck!

Bob Hritz

[RonR]

Bob,

Thank you!

Best regards,

[Br. James]

Yes, a very nice piece, Ron -- another one that I've never seen before! The symbolism seems to indicate the Foreign Office logo; I wonder if this badge was produced to commemorate a visit by Ribbentrop to Mexico? Or perhaps a visit by the Graf Zeppelin or the Hindenburg? I don't recall whether either airship ever touched down in Mexico, but the itineraries are on the internet so it wouldn't be difficult to find out. And what about that "No. 2"? No Idea what that might mean... And it looks like a solid silver mark on the reverse, under the pin.

Again, quite an unusual piece!

Br. James

[dragnet]

Wrong/right, real/fake, i couldnt say but Ron may i say its allways a treat checking out one of your posts fella

[Wood]

Odd silver mark, but i have found this for starters, by searching for "silver mark 938"

A Collection of British Orders and Decorations, the Property of ...
https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archiv...s/results.php?...
... badge, silver-gilt and enamel, unofficial German manufacture, stamped on reverse, 'Godet' with silver mark '938', slight enamel damage, very fine £60-80.
Can't quite find what this relates to with a quick look, but it would seem the 938 is OK.
Get it tested for silver content Ron.
Regards,
Pete

[GiuseppeC]

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Nice piece, Ron.

I do not think it was ever in OMSA Journal and no photo of it being worn. Now, wait for the flak to hit. Or, is it just items I own that cannot be original?

Good luck!

Bob Hritz

@ Bob:

Here I was, hoping you would reply in the right thread...but I'll roll with it. I'm all for intelligent debate, but it's funny to me how many "advanced collectors" don't even seem to understand the manufacturing....which is pretty basic in most other collecting fields.

In the case of the badge posted here:

*I'm on my phone, so it's hard for me to tell from this screen, but:

It looks like a plated badge, where the plating has rubbed-off (as opposed to a tarnished silver badge).

If that's the case, then an added silver hallmark is pretty-much a dead giveaway that it's fake.

I'll look again next time I'm in front of my desktop pc.

The engraving also leaves a lot to be desired, but that's another subject.

[Jo Rivett]

Page 48.

Described as:

RAM Tokio. No.3". Abzeichen für Angehörige des
diplomatischen Korps aus dem Besitz Dr. Hans-Otto Meissners. 1936 wurde dieser an die deutsche Botschaft in Tokyo entsandt. Silber, Vorderseite mit Hoheitsadler und Umschrift, rückseitig bezeichnet "C. E. Junker Berlin..." Vgl. Hüsken: Auszeichnungen, S. 303. Zur Tätigkeit M.s in Japan vgl. seine Schilderung: Als Diplomat in London, Tokio, Moskau, Mailand.

It was offered for sale a few times the past 5 years, and recently sold the last auction. I am not sure, but i have €950.- in my head as the final sales price? I think the first attempt was to sell it for €2000.- but it did not sell.