Odd NSDAP Badges - Need Help

[DougO]

Came across these two NSDAP pins. I've never seen any like these two. Any help in identifying them would be appreciated.
Thanks, Doug

[jimmy72]

Not sure about the enamel one but the DE badge is a nice early example ! Is it silver ?
Enamel one looks very much like a strassenbahn cap badge on Jo Rivetts site . If the DE is authentic it's a rare find . Good luck !

[fldjr]

Doug,
Here's a DE badge similar to your, except with a suspension ring.
Fred