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**sniper11** · 04-14-2018, 11:47 AM

This is a great thread-I'm off to check my tinnie's!!

**Andy.B** · 04-14-2018, 01:06 PM

Already posted fantasy SS Gautag Munchen but with rough solid back in heavy grey alloy and repro common Tag der arbeit 1935 in aluminium. Cheers, Andy. [IMG]

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**Tom Yanacek** · 04-14-2018, 09:39 PM

Thanks for posting those, Andy. That 1935 Tag d. Arbeit is scary. It is a very convincing fake for such a common tinnie. I can see how that one could really fool us collectors. And if it were not for the JFS maker mark I would think it real. But since Josef Feix Söhne was situated in the Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia, I doubt they were making Nazi tinnies in 1935.

Best regards,
Tom

**Tom Yanacek** · 04-14-2018, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by rlimike View Post

... but they should not fool anyone.

Thanks, Michael.

Let's hope not.

Best regards,
Tom

**Tom Yanacek** · 04-14-2018, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by sniper11 View Post

This is a great thread-I'm off to check my tinnie's!!

Hi Troy,

Fortunately, tinnie collecting is a relatively safe facet of Third Reich collectibles. Most of the fakes in this thread are very obvious and would not fool most, except perhaps a collector that is just starting out.

Best regards,
Tom

**Andy.B** · 04-15-2018, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by Tom Yanacek View Post

Thanks for posting those, Andy. That 1935 Tag d. Arbeit is scary. It is a very convincing fake for such a common tinnie. I can see how that one could really fool us collectors. And if it were not for the JFS maker mark I would think it real. But since Josef Feix Söhne was situated in the Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia, I doubt they were making Nazi tinnies in 1935.

Best regards,
Tom

Hi Tom, Yes it's a good copy but is sold as a reproduction though many repros as we know find there way onto dealer sites and stands and are sold as original often with some chemical ageing. The 1935 T.D.A. is currently for sale on N.Morigi's site along with many other tinnies but like I said these are sold as what they are and this guy is not trying to swindle anyone and that's fair enough as let's not forget there are many with a deep to desire to build a collection of Third Reich items but just cannot afford originals (even humble Tinnies) it's just when the scumbags try to pass off fakes as real that repros are a problem for those with little experience. This is the Morigi web page with the repro Tinnies for reference:http://www.theregaliaspecialist.com/...es_and_Tinnies
Cheers Andy.

**Tom Yanacek** · 04-15-2018, 07:11 PM

Hi Andy,

Thank you for that link.

Originally posted by Andy.B View Post

Yes it's a good copy but is sold as a reproduction though many repros as we know find there way onto dealer sites and stands and are sold as original often with some chemical ageing.

Unfortunately, that is the problem with these legitimately-made and marketed reproductions. They start off, honestly enough, as copies for collectors, reenactors, movie props, and even museums (as mentioned on the website). What museum would want a copy of something like this? When I go to a museum I expect to see the real thing. Unless, of course, it is something so rare that an original is not obtainable. The stuff gets bought up and, as you say, gets passed off to the unsuspecting by unscrupulous characters. It's a vicious circle that floods the market with crap, dupes the young and/or inexperienced collector and causes them to loose their enthusiasm and interest. Thus they leave the hobby. Too many good people have turned away from this hobby already because of being duped by reproductions. These reproductions do more damage than good. We need to keep in mind that if all the young people lose interest and quit the hobby, who will be left to buy our originals when we are ready to sell? I would be more accepting of these reproductions if they were stamped with the word "copy" on the reverse.

Another thing is that some of these reproductions cost more than the originals. Original tinnies such as May Days and Tag d. Arbeit can be had for cheap. I frequently see them for $5-15. Hindenburg Crosses too. The fakes from China are selling for more than the real ones and there is an endless supply of originals to be had.

Best regards,
Tom

**Tom Yanacek** · 01-27-2019, 10:18 AM

fake vs. real:

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**Tom Yanacek** · 01-27-2019, 10:52 AM

This fake of the 1933 Gau München Commemorative Badge can be seen frequently in online auctions.

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**Jean-Claude** · 01-27-2019, 05:32 PM

[QUOTE=Andy.B;8142996]Already posted fantasy SS Gautag Munchen but with rough solid back in heavy grey alloy...

Another fake similar to the hollow stamped back one Tom posted in post 31 but with different pin set up. The "lump" under the left wing looks odd but it doesnt appear on the rear stamping so its probably just dirt

Anyway, I didnt mortgage the house for this one it just came as part of a 6 tinnie lot for $65. and the other 5 (including a beautiful cupal RTP 39) where all fine

Regards

JC

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**Tom Yanacek** · 01-28-2019, 12:51 PM

A horrible fake of the 1933 SS Gruppe West Frankfurt am Main tinnie

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**Tom Yanacek** · 01-28-2019, 12:53 PM

A better-quality fake of the 1933 SS Gruppe West Frankfurt am Main tinnie from a current online auction

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**Tom Yanacek** · 01-29-2019, 08:13 PM

more auction crap...

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**Tom Yanacek** · 01-29-2019, 08:15 PM

marked RZM 63

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