S - A Treffen obvious fake?

[D Funk]

Hi Forum, I believe this is an obvious fake but just wanted to make sure as it was given to me with some original items. Thanks in advance

[D Funk]

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[Martin Harding]

Hello, just like when refering to most things in life the rear view can speak a Thousands words and in this case sadly it's no different. The hinge, pin & catch assembly are the initial obvious giveaway to the Badge in question been a fake. The Badge itself however appears to be a very crips die struck example, hence I understand why you questioned the Badge
Regards Martin

[Martin Harding]

Hello, Below for you to compare I have posted one of my hollow die struck examples Manufactured by Steinhauer & Luck - Ludenschied

S-A Treffen

[Martin Harding]

S - A Treffen - Reverse
Steinhauer & Luck - Ludenschied

[Br. James]

I agree that the pin assembly on the badge shown in notes #1 & 2 is not typical for the SA Treffen Badge of 1931, but I wonder whether that assembly might not be a period replacement? The assembly shown there is significantly sturdier than those found on these badges as they were originally sold, so I'm thinking that the original owner of this piece might have had a broken pin assembly replaced?

Just a thought...

Br. James

[Martin Harding]

Yes that exact same thought did actually cross my mind also and would definately not rule it out

[Gregorio Torres]

This fake is a comon one made in Poland years ago. Even the hardware is complety different than in the originals.

[Gregorio Torres]

By the way.
Martin, I like a lot yours

[Br. James]

Hi Gregorio,

I agree that "the hardware is complety different than in the originals," which certainly would be the case if the pin hardware had been replaced, even during the 1930s. Unlike most event badges, which were cheaply made to be worn for a day or two -- the duration of the event itself -- the 1931 SA Treffen Braunschweig Badge turned out to have a much longer life than originally expected: it was recognized by the NSDAP as an official Honor Badge on November 6, 1936. That meant that, like the 1929 RPT Badge, the Brunswick SA Rally Badge could continue to be worn into the future, and also like the 1929 RPT Badge, the pin assembly did not always stand up to the constant use and eventually broke free of the badge, thus requiring repair or replacement. The pin assembly on this piece looks like it was put there to securely hold the badge for a significant time...much longer than a quickly-soldiered pin plate would serve the wearer.

Just some thoughts,

Br. James