Reichsparteitag Souvenirs on estand

[Matthew]

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=707697

Funnel and a pencil from Nurnberg advertised as Reichsparteitag Souvenirs.
IMO simply two items that come from Nurnberg but nothing to do with Reichsparteitag.
Calling those RPT souvenirs would be like calling a pencil with writing " München - Hauptstadt der Bewegung" a Putsch souvenir.

cheers
Matt

[James Noble]

Well it does say
Die Stadt der Reichsparteitage Nürnberg ( The city of Nuremberg Party Rallies) not just Nürnberg.

[Gran Sasso]

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=707697

Funnel and a pencil from Nurnberg advertised as Reichsparteitag Souvenirs.
IMO simply two items that come from Nurnberg but nothing to do with Reichsparteitag.
Calling those RPT souvenirs would be like calling a pencil with writing " München - Hauptstadt der Bewegung" a Putsch souvenir.

cheers
Matt

I highly recommend to learn a few german words....

[Gran Sasso]

As you are able to type the word REICHSPARTEITAG you should be able to read THIS!:

[Br. James]

I understand your feeling, Matt, but I think that all of these items -- and countless more besides these which we have never even seen before -- were created by businesses (local and nation-wide) to be sold to the visiting public during each year's Party Congress in Nürnberg. And, to me, they all fall under the category of "RPT Souvenirs." Indeed, I have had here on my desk for many years a sterling silver ashtray (yes, it is made of .925 silver, and no, I don't use it for the purpose for which it was created!) bearing the five symbolic rings of the Olympics plus the year "1936," which I believe to be a souvenir of the XI Olympiad in Berlin of that year, and though I have absolutely no reason to believe that this piece ever belonged to any of the athletes or to anyone directly associated with that great sports event, it is as much a "souvenir" of he 1936 Olympic Games as is the pencil or the funnel in your link. Next to that ashtray on my desk is a model of "Haus Wachenfeld" cast in metal and mounted to a marble base which I believe to have been among the many items sold at souvenir stands and kiosks throughout the Obersalzberg Administration and most likely at similar places throughout Germany during the 1930s. This, too, is a "souvenir" of Hitler's home, though it probably never saw the interior of the Berghof!

One may wish to think that only items actually used in the displays or the pageants presented each day during a RPT, or which made up the buildings that once stood or still stand on those fields or that were worn by people who participated in those events or the tickets, books and programs sold to spectators who attended in their thousands, but to me these annual congresses were hucksters' heaven! Almost anything that could be made up to carry the name of "The city of the Reich Party Days" is indeed akin to referring to Munich as "The First City of the Movement!"

Best to you, my friend,

Br. James

[Matthew]

Nurnberg (the city of) has earned the nickname and was known during the Nazi days as the "City of Reichs Party Days" just like Stuttgart was called "Die Stadt der Auslandsdeutschen" and Munchen was known as "Haupstadt der Bewegung".
It does not mean that everything that came out of Nurnberg 1929-39 was RPT souvenir!
If something was a souvenir from the Party Congress it would typically carry the name of the Congress, its years logo or a year not a general description for the city of Nurnberg.
What year RPT does the funnel come from again? That should be easy to establish as every other souvenir tells you that.


cheers
Matt

[jabnus]

Hi,

Im with Matthew on these. Uncountable many objects marked as "Stadt der Reichsparteitage" were produced. These were NOT from the Reichsparteitage themselves, but from throughout the rest of the year. It's as Matthew points out, Nurnberg was simply the city were the RPT were held and advertised for a number of years as such. A very good example of this practice is known among e.g postcardcollectors, as many postcards marked as such exist or were stamped on the stamp as such. Also pretty well known are little souvenir photobooklets. These were all not from the Reichsparteitage, but "just" from the city Nurnberg.


best regards,
Gaston

[Matthew]

As you are able to type the word REICHSPARTEITAG you should be able to read THIS!:

I can read it just fine. Interesting how you decided to omit the first three words:
DIE STADT DER. Now correct me if I am wrong- does the description refer to the City (of Nurnberg) or the Day of the Party in Nurnberg?
Looking forward to your answer.

[J. Wraith]

Ad say's Nürnberg Reichsparteitag souvenirs and the items say Nürnberg Reichsparteitag, not seeing anything terribly misleading there for the staggering sum of 99 Euro.

[JoeW]

I agree with Matt. The labeling of cities as "Capital of the Movement" or "City of the Reichs Party Days" was a general commercial endeavor. The cities of Suhl and Zella-Mehlis associated themselves with firearms makers in their advertising names. Being the City of the Reichs Party Days and selling the souvenirs any day of the week of any year does not make that souvenir a souvenir of a Reichs Party Day celebration. The advertisement language is misleading. And if the items had a reference to a specific party day/date, the NSDAP would have been involved and gotten their share of the sale.

[J. Wraith]

Oh Brother! Grab a rope and string the guy up, what a crook. Talk about splitting hairs, like talking to my sister.

[Jon Fish]

The items in question are still period and still cool and collectable, I think this is being over analysed guys!
I'm more interested to think how many guys returning from a couple of days marching and drinking got a clout around the ear from the Frau only returning with a souvenir funnel !

[JoeW]

The items in question are still period and still cool and collectable, I think this is being over analysed guys!
I'm more interested to think how many guys returning from a couple of days marching and drinking got a clout around the ear from the Frau only returning with a souvenir funnel !

Jon, no one is saying it isn't period or isn't collectible. But I believe we are entitled to our opinions.

[J. Wraith]

Joe,

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, I just hope that someone contacted the seller prior to unloading this bombshell accusation on the forums. An item marked Nuremberg Reich's Party day is not a Reichs party day souvenir as its a souvenir from the state host, making believe its related to the party days and not dated itself. Fascinating material. This fraudulent type of behavior is just over the top and should be treated with the harshest methods. Jmo, but personally I think its intolerable and I am moving 100k into tampon stocks as we speak to try and get ahead of this curve.

[Jon Fish]

Jon, no one is saying it isn't period or isn't collectible. But I believe we are entitled to our opinions.

Of course Joe I fully agree people are entitled to opinions and debate is good! just feel sorry for the member who is getting a tough time trying to sell the original items. So yes probably a souvenir of the area and not directly the reichparteitag. However still probably bought by guys attending the rallies from local outlets!