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**VonPeter** · 06-25-2013, 08:20 AM

Not before the war since both british medals was established 16 August 1945.

But can the last one be some kind of ribbon variation of the constabulary medal? I dont think anyone would want to were the german Eagle order in britain after 1945.

/peter

**marisca lrommel** · 06-25-2013, 11:07 AM

Seller who sold it to me said that it was the order of the German Eagle.

I have compared the tape with the orders of the Eagle first class in my collection and they are exactly the same... in my opinion if that is the order of the German Eagle.

I'm not sure what if the other medals are British. I've been looking on the internet and I have found the British medals with the same ribbon color... could be medals Bulgarian, Finnish, Norwegian or Swedish?

**VonPeter** · 06-25-2013, 11:25 AM

The first two are british ribbons.

This is something I was thinking:

**marisca lrommel** · 06-25-2013, 11:26 AM

Seller description:

Bought at the closing of the Santa Monica Military Museum

**marisca lrommel** · 06-25-2013, 11:54 AM

In my opinion, the owner of the Ribbon bar is received before the proclamation of the War of England to Germany the order of the German Eagle.

There were many examples which before 1939 received this award by Germany as also received it other civilian and military characters from different countries (Spain, Italy, France, Argentina, Bulgaria, Finland, Sweden, etc).

The British-man received the order of the Eagle was also awarded British medals of war and defense subsequently and the Ribbon bar that I bought was assembled later by this veteran as a reminder and collection of medals which were granted.

For this reason the Ribbon bar has no needle to turn to any uniform, because he never brought him in his uniform with this configuration, however the Ribbon of the order of the German Eagle is correct, original and not it appreciated stitched later than the other two British medals, was added at the same time than the other two.

**Mainemilitaria** · 06-25-2013, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by marisca lrommel View Post

In my opinion, the owner of the Ribbon bar is received before the proclamation of the War of England to Germany the order of the German Eagle.

There were many examples which before 1939 received this award by Germany as also received it other civilian and military characters from different countries (Spain, Italy, France, Argentina, Bulgaria, Finland, Sweden, etc).

The British-man received the order of the Eagle was also awarded British medals of war and defense subsequently and the Ribbon bar that I bought was assembled later by this veteran as a reminder and collection of medals which were granted.

For this reason the Ribbon bar has no needle to turn to any uniform, because he never brought him in his uniform with this configuration, however the Ribbon of the order of the German Eagle is correct, original and not it appreciated stitched later than the other two British medals, was added at the same time than the other two.

Marisca,
No offense....but you're dreaming!....No British Officer did this and if you paid anything more than a couple bucks for this you've been HAD! I don't care what the story was or where it came from....this is nothing more than a messed with item- basically a piece of junk!

I can "make up a story" to cover almost any situation.....I've collected for 55 years and been a dealer for at least 35 years.... you are, of course, free to believe what you wish.... but I don't believe it for one second!

Sorry....but the truth is the truth!
John G.

**marisca lrommel** · 06-25-2013, 02:10 PM

That is based on you to make such a statement?
Do I take less years you collecting and I've seen everything... perhaps ensures that no British received the order of the German Eagle?

You look at a proof of this.
Alexander Matthew is a English man who received the order of the German Eagle for second class without swords on September 20, 1939

Can you show a test indicating that an Englishman could not receive the order of the German Eagle and join your ribbon bar but it will never show the same?

Can you indicate us in his infinite wisdom that has occurred with this ribbon bar?

Certainly, don't worry, I paid only € 17 for this set on Ebay and only the piece of Ribbon of the order of the Eagle, first class has more value.

http://www.ebay.es/itm/261227780733?...9#ht_500wt_949

Evidence of what it says please

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**marisca lrommel** · 06-25-2013, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Mainemilitaria View Post

Sorry....but the truth is the truth!
John G.

That truth?... yours, mine?

**marisca lrommel** · 06-25-2013, 02:39 PM

Is there a logical explanation for everything?

Do if your were the recipient of the order of the German Eagle in first class until your country declared war on Germany... then just the order of the Eagle?... many would do it but I assure you that others are not.

PIN does not make sense because no one in their right mind would show such set of medals, but if that makes sense if what you intend is to have all the tapes of the medals that you received as a souvenir and is the position that I believe as more as possible.

On the other hand...jobs to create a PIN gives fantasy to sell it and earn money extra... would really be foolish to create this credible so little PIN?. I bought it because it caught my attention the Encomienda in the same tape and I paid for it about €10 with what I have not invested much the parcel tape, even if a piece is 100% original and worth it. For me it is, at the very least a curious article that will serve as a complement or rare item related to the order of the German Eagle. None of "Ribbons" or the thread used to sew it responds to ultraviolet light so or was stitched long ago or has been used original thread for this, but I am inclined to think that nobody is so stupid to create a PIN like this in order to defraud anyone and much less in a carton or cardboard base pen without Dowitcher and others.

**VonPeter** · 06-25-2013, 03:40 PM

The whole point in ribbon bars is to show what awards you have received, so if you cant were it, whats the point in making one?

I still think it can be the closest thing he could find to a constabulary ribbon but in that case he put it in the wrong place, as it is now the "german" ribbon is first since the defense medal has priority over the war medal.

But it is probably just like John said, a piece of junk.

/peter

**RonR** · 06-25-2013, 08:25 PM

Marisca,

Very interesting ribbon bar and quite thought provoking.

Thank you for posting it!

VonPeter has suggested that it may be a variation of the British "Special Constabulary Medal for Faithful Service", and it does indeed have some similarity.....

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**marisca lrommel** · 06-26-2013, 06:48 AM

I see that the colors are very similar and would be a likely explanation.

Thanks RonR. So glad to discuss... with clear examples and explaining our opinion with evidence.

Thank you very much for these images. What is clear is that the 70 years of British police tape has the same colors as the
Order of the German Eagle first class but not the same measures... see the comparison.

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**marisca lrommel** · 06-26-2013, 07:32 AM

I searched the English Medal and now I see that it is not of the same medal. Measures and form of the British ribbon is different... see images

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**marisca lrommel** · 06-26-2013, 07:33 AM

The 70 Special Constabulary medal

Here there are some on sale:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Special-Co...ectorid=229508

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