A.H. Stamped into the right hand corner brick of the arch.
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Quite unusual; I've never seen this design before! Hitler obviously called upon his knowledge of architecture in each of these badge designs since each includes a skyline from the most notable portion of the city or area represented -- Coburg, Nürnberg and Schloss Wartburg.
And while I'm cogitating on this subject, I wonder if Hitler had input to the design of the 1933 RPT Badge? I've never heard a name attributed to that year's logo design, and it does include the skyline of Nuremberg Castle within the body of the design... What say ye?!
Br. JamesComment
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An interesting notion that Adolf Hitler had a hand in the design of this rather super SA event badge, however I do not think so.
In my opinion, it is either the coincidental initials of the badge designer or a slightly tongue in cheek design feature which reflects a European practise (perhaps US also - I do not know), of incorporating into a building, dedication stones or bricks. That is, bricks and stones which overtly display details of benefactors or worthy persons.
Is there a German architect in the house ?
Regards,
DavidComment
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Thanks David, though I am curious as to why you doubt that Hitler was involved in the design of this badge. Until I read Erich's comment below I had not heard that Hitler was involved with the designs for the Coburg or the '29 RPT badges, but it does make good sense to me. Offhand I cannot think of any other designer or sculptor that would have used the initials "AH" other than Hitler himself... A most interesting topic!
Br. JamesComment
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In the book Kampf um Coburg there is a rough sketch done by Hitler which I posted on the 1st or 2nd page of the Coburg badge thread.
In the Ulrich book on DE Standards he shows Hitlers influence on the design of the 29 badge.Comment
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Thanks for jogging my memory, Erich! Of course I have Ulrich's important book, but I guess I read it so long ago that I'd forgotten his citation of the '29 RPT badge. Glad to have you there to keep me sorted out!
Br. JamesComment
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Indeed strange. Why would he be / and want to be involved in the design of this particular badge?
MilComment
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I would agree with David , the designers initials and probably not THE AH.
PeteComment
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Thanks all for your opinions. its certainly something to ponder......for a littlewhile anyway.Originally posted by Wood View PostComment
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Dear Br. JamesOriginally posted by Br. James View Post
Perhaps already answered, however here goes. Although in my opinion, a rather splendid SA event badge by design and one that I hold, it is nothing "special" in any other shape or form. As such, I really could not see Adolf Hitler being involved in the design of such a badge which only had a short lived local significance.
Regards,
DavidComment
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Thanks for your response, David, and I'm sorry if it seems like I'm 'beating a dead horse' here...but if Hitler wanted to insert his own artistic ideas into an event badge design, as he apparently did regarding the '29 RPT badge -- I'm sure nothing or no one would have stopped him, and his suggestions would have carried much weight. In general terms, perhaps one of the major factors in the quick demise of the NSDAP and the Third Reich was the welcoming of Hitler into any situation or conversation on any matter, and in giving him the ability to make significant decisions in matters he was painfully not qualified to even have an opinion on. As an extrovert with artistic sensibilities, Hitler had little sense of bounds to his interests or his feeling of capability to decide how things should be. He treated the Nazi Party as his personal possession and seemingly felt quite at home in all circumstances...especially when he had no experience or little background from which to draw conclusions. In the case at hand, it seems at least plausible that Hitler may have been asked his opinion on the design of this event badge, and the rest became history!
Br. JamesComment
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And the "1. NS Reichsjugendtag Potsdam" badge, albeit indirectly. See post #11 of this thread:Originally posted by ErichS View Post
http://www.hj-research.com/forum/f28...our-badge-353/Comment
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^^ post #10Comment
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Dear Br. JamesOriginally posted by Br. James View Post
My apologies for a slightly late response and I do not think for one single moment that you are "flogging a dead horse". I take on board everything you say without exception and I fully agree. Perhaps I am going around in circles here, however for myself at least, it does seem odd although not impossible, that this somewhat routine SA-Tagungsabzeichen was designed and "signed" by Hitler - in quite splendid isolation to my knowledge. The event took place one day after Hitlers birthday (in 1934) and I thought that the bold 44 on the badge may have been an oblique reference to the chaps age. Absolute rubbish of course as it was Hitlers 45th birthday in 1934.
Hopefully one day we will discover the significance of the AH incorporated within this badge.
Regards,
DavidComment
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