RZM Question

[uscob]

Posted a HJ Badge here in Post 139 and asked for assistance with the RZM36 Marking.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...209908&page=10
Who can tell me what Maker this was as I can't find it in all the List's I found here and in the Net.
Thank you

[Wim Vangossum]

RZM 36 is about the same as M1/36 = Berg & Nolte, Lüdenscheid. These examples without the M1/ prefix are by collectors called as transitional badges.

The HJ honor as showed in the link is IMO a fake Deumer.


Regards, Wim



Freedom is not for Free

[sjl]

There was a couple month period at the beginning of 1935 after they issued manufacturer numbers, but before they standardized the "M" prefix system.

[uscob]

Thanks for the Info.
BTW: the honour isn't mine. I sold mine on the Kassel Show.
It had some strange Marking. A "B" and a Number. A lot of People say that it couldn't be, but all the Experts said it is a 100% original and it came directly from the original owners family. So something new, not found in the Textbooks.

[Wim Vangossum]

Thanks for the Info.
BTW: the honour isn't mine. I sold mine on the Kassel Show.
It had some strange Marking. A "B" and a Number. A lot of People say that it couldn't be, but all the Experts said it is a 100% original and it came directly from the original owners family. So something new, not found in the Textbooks.

I know it isn' yours. But it's still a pitty for the owner who payed for an orginal with a certificate.


The "B" designation togheter with a serial number is perfectly possible. During a certain time it was possible to order a replacement badge with the serial number applied.

Regards, Wim


Freedom is not for Free

[uscob]

I know it isn' yours. But it's still a pitty for the owner who payed for an orginal with a certificate.


The "B" designation togheter with a serial number is perfectly possible. During a certain time it was possible to order a replacement badge with the serial number applied.

Regards, Wim


Freedom is not for Free

Wim, thank's for the Info. I just named it because lot's of people who didn't had the Badge in their Hands told me it's a fake, but many well known Dealers in Kassel who looked at it, told me it's 100% OK.

[Jo Rivett]

There was a couple month period at the beginning of 1935 after they issued manufacturer numbers, but before they standardized the "M" prefix system.

Everything about this claim is very wrong, and has been corrected in The Party badge Book.

[shaneos3]

Hello everyone,

I have another RZM question, does anyone know who the maker RZM M3-120 is - or how one can find out?

Best Regards,
Michael

[Jo Rivett]

Hello everyone,

I have another RZM question, does anyone know who the maker RZM M3-120 is - or how one can find out?

Best Regards,
Michael

Hi Michael, there were only 29 M3/ manufacturers licensed by mid 1935, when the RZM were putting their RZM Handbuch together, so you will need to consult post 1935 RZM announcement papers to find out who M3/120 was.

[mloppkit]

Hello Shaneos Michael,

This is not a badge number, I have only a handful of M3 Manufacturers M3-28, M3-100, M3-83 to name a few, as these are the most commonly seen RZM M3 markings seen, sorry,

Good luck,
Michael

[wilhelm Saris]

According to the Clyde Davis-addendum M3/120 was Anton Henn from Wien.

This is correct. This number was mentioned first in the Mitteilungsblatt der Reichszeugmeisterei from January 14, 1939 (page 14): Anton Henn, Neustiftgasse 94, Wien VII.

[shaneos3]

Hello Mr Saris,
Thank-you very much for this help, It helps me a lot,
Best Regards, Shaneos3