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[Stöckel]

Hello,

please Oppinions !
Regards Jan

[Odyssey]

Nice, original badge!
Very interesting pin

[Winterhilfswerk]

@ Odyssey what do you recognize that it is original ? would be interested very as a collector
regrads
Guy

[petopoint]

pin

The pin is the same used on other 30's era badges, pins and brooches.
Nice pin.

[Carsten135]

hey jan

Wintherhilfwerk might be correct, is it original?, your badge have some red flags ( head on boy, background in lower part of badge, not complete badge in lines, pinsystem ) just to say some of the red flags. ill post one minty from my collection so you can see what imm talking bout.
maybee some other guys has a opinion on the badge, never seen this pinsystem before on these FFJ

cheers


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[mametz]

That pin is not original to that badge
Mametz

[Stöckel]

Hello,

the Badge by Militaria Beck !

http://www.beck-militaria.de/3-REICH...nd::11806.html
Regards jan

[Carsten135]

hi jan

yes the badge beck have is excatly the same badge as yours whit the same pinsystem, so we can rule out the "replaced pin " terory very quickly, and move furtheron whit the next 2 questions : fake? or who is the maker?
what talks against the badge is that its not well know whit this pinsystem, which for me imo seems "overdue" for such badges beside that, the pinsystem is build for other purposes like the 2 holes is for attaching a spange, medal etc, the pic below from my DDR collection illustrate my statement as you can see its almost the same system which they used in the DDR regime, and same pinsystems in diffrent models.
The only pinsystem i do know of is the Danzig flakbadge whit a simular pinsystem and yet a diffrent model from the badge of yours. So my personal conclusion is that imm highly doubtfull around originality of your badge and the one beck have for sale too. Maybee beck have the makers name or have some atributtes, he sits whit the guarantie of originality if hes a honnest seller.
Another simular pinsystem i do have in my experience is the cevil SS badge i bought in a lot some time ago and which i considder as a fake , the badge has a rzm makercode M1/172 which is Walter & Henlein-Gablonz an der Neisse but again whit a pinsystem thats not build for the badge so imm highly doutbfull that he even made badges whit these pinsystems and might be maker of the badges shown at the start of this thread.
Maybee some other guys have some experiences on these imo overdue pinsystems not build or designed for these particular badges? anyway heres some pics that support my statements.



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[Stöckel]

Hallo,

thanks.
Here two WB badge.
Here needles are used with two holes ...
These are similar to the not only turned down the hook
Regards jan

[Carsten135]

hi there jan

Year your WB seems to be born whit the same pinsystem as the Danzig Flakbadge and still diff from the first FFJ models shown, why they made WB whit a pinsystem like this might be speculation, i have seen this kind of pinsystem on these WB before in the past , ill set some pics of what i find as a normal pinsetup on these badges but again the WB is a medal and not a tinnie so imm not a super expert on WB for that you might use the section on WAF in General wehrmacht awards ill guess they would tell you who the maker is and from that see if the maker made Tinnies or daybadges too, it might be the right way to go for info or hopefully facts to confirm or deconfirm a historical object. heres some pics of some of my WB in same catagory.

cheers

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