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    Hi,

    Any opinions on this one?

    Thanks,
    Marc
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      #3
      Sorry...nope

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        #4
        The must be marked Hoffstätter or Gahr for a start.


        Regards, Wim


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          #5
          Originally posted by Wim Vangossum View Post
          The must be marked Hoffstätter or Gahr for a start.


          Regards, Wim


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          This is what market say's, however there would appear to be some that are not marked that have been acquired directly from veterans on more than a couple occasions that may be original. This one however is not one of them.

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            #6
            Originally posted by J. Wraith View Post
            This is what market say's, however there would appear to be some that are not marked that have been acquired directly from veterans on more than a couple occasions that may be original. This one however is not one of them.
            And were never RZM marked!

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              #7
              Originally posted by J. Wraith View Post
              This is what market say's, however there would appear to be some that are not marked that have been acquired directly from veterans on more than a couple occasions that may be original. This one however is not one of them.

              I know that story albeit I find it hard to swallow. There are many veteran souvenir groups infected with fake stuff that they gathered on gun shows or received from friends etc...
              However I keep an open mind and everything is possible of course.



              Regards, Wim



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                #8
                Originally posted by Wim Vangossum View Post
                I know that story albeit I find it hard to swallow. There are many veteran souvenir groups infected with fake stuff that they gathered on gun shows or received from friends etc...
                However I keep an open mind and everything is possible of course.



                Regards, Wim



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                I agree, however they have their own attributes and are actually identifiable and not all that common. I cant really question the people that bought these to me, but I can identify one without looking at the rear of the pin. Its not common to see one.

                Cannot say for sure.

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                  #9
                  Well, when an unmarked pin frontal is almost 100 % identical to a mm Hoffstätter it is indeed worth a close examination and is it something to think about. I admit I never took the time to make a side by side compare.


                  Regards, Wim



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                    #10
                    This badge has such poor sunken enamel work it would be an embarrassment to put it on a jacket.
                    I have seen good badges that are not marked but as it has been said this one is nowhere near
                    All the best
                    Doug

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                      #11
                      Thanks for your opinions guys!!

                      Cheers,
                      Marc

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by J. Wraith View Post
                        This is what market say's, however there would appear to be some that are not marked that have been acquired directly from veterans on more than a couple occasions that may be original. This one however is not one of them.
                        I don't think it is a question of what the market says. Notwithstanding the presence of "other" varieties of this style of pin, it is a matter of historical fact. As discussed in one of Angolia's earlier works, the documentation exists identifying Hoffstatter as the initial manufacturer of the SS-Zivilabzeichen (it was designed by one of their employees) with special orders being produced in silver by Gahr. Private manufacture of these was forbidden.

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