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**dolchmann07** · 10-19-2011, 04:00 PM

2 Unknown to me pins Help Needed

Hello All, Has anyone on this site seen either of these pins before ?
If so any idea of what they are and what purpose they serve ?
I thank ANYONE who can help !

Jack Neeley

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**Wood** · 10-19-2011, 09:21 PM

I have seen similar ones to the bottom badge, but in my opinion these are both fakes.
Regards,
Pete

**Winterhilfswerk** · 10-19-2011, 11:35 PM

Hello
Sorry is 2 x fake
Regards
Guy

**dolchmann07** · 10-26-2011, 06:54 PM

2 unknown pins

Here is what the seller told me :
The first one was a badge worn by off duty Luftwaffe personal that were stationed in Poland, before the invasion of the Soviet Union. The second one is a badge they would wear when off duty when wearing civilian clothes in occupied countries. Not sure which country on the second badge, but probably an eastern country. Could do some more research on it if you would like.
Does this change any minds ?
Jack

**Wood** · 10-26-2011, 06:58 PM

Further research....pointless.
Pete

**Tom Yanacek** · 10-26-2011, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by dolchmann07 View Post

Here is what the seller told me :
The first one was a badge worn by off duty Luftwaffe personal that were stationed in Poland, before the invasion of the Soviet Union. The second one is a badge they would wear when off duty when wearing civilian clothes in occupied countries. Not sure which country on the second badge, but probably an eastern country. Could do some more research on it if you would like.
Does this change any minds ?
Jack

Hello Jack,

Sorry, but both of these pins are fantasy items.

Whoever made the first one did not even know the German language. The word "is" does not exist in German. They were trying here to say, "Property of the Flying Corps." A silly notion that anyone would go around with a pin to claim that they were flying corps property.

The second pin reads, "Air Base Commander, Oels." Oels is a town in Lower Silesia. A German air base commander would not go walking around in Poland wearing a pin like this whether in or out of uniform. And he didn't need a pin like this to remind himself what he was either. The idea of such a pin is ridiculous.

Best regards,
Tom

**Silesien** · 10-27-2011, 12:14 AM

Both badges are fakes, that's for sure. Fliergerhorstkommandantur doesn't mean 'Commander'; it means 'Command',- so it's Air Base Command. For example, Luftwaffe trumpet banners are embroidered on the back: Fliegerhorstkommandantur ( Air Base Command ) , with the base's name below. Every trumpet in the band on any given base had one, so one of these banners wasn't the personal properrty of the Base Commander. The fake pin is trying to be an original Luftwaffe Workers ID Badge; they exist with different wording & different colored painted center portions. Over the years I've had 4 of them, in from different veteran buys,- I had a red one, a lite-blue one, a white one; & another in all bronze similar to the design pictured, but certainly not as crappy looking as that fake. I never found out what the colors stood for. They all had individual serial numbers. The one I had with the lite-blue center was golden bronze & had on it: Flugplatzkommando B16/VII Landsberg/Lech, & was maker-marked "L. Chr. Lauer, Nürnberg & Berlin."

**Winterhilfswerk** · 10-27-2011, 09:34 AM

is fake

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