SA and Miners

[McCulloh]

I got 2 interesting photos at a show with the Ricks on Sunday.
First the Miners, about which I know nothing:

[McCulloh]

und @1933/34

and a photo of an SA man in full kit. By the lack of an HKx I'd date this between 1930-1934, so this guy was probably one of the 3,000,000 SA recruits that Roehm raised in 1933/34.
Of special note is the home-made ribbon bar: EK2/Bav.MMc3/Hungarian 14-18.
Can anybody tell me what unit his collar denotes?

[Erich B.]

The photo of the SA man would date from 1933 to 1939 or so. I would agree that it's probably 1933-35 judging from the details of his belt and crossbelt. The shoulderboards were introduced around 1933.
I can't make out the collar insignia on my monitor--can you tell what it features?
thanks,
Erich
PS--what's an HKx? Hindenburg cross?

and a photo of an SA man in full kit. By the lack of an HKx I'd date this between 1930-1934, so this guy was probably one of the 3,000,000 SA recruits that Roehm raised in 1933/34.
Of special note is the home-made ribbon bar: EK2/Bav.MMc3/Hungarian 14-18.
Can anybody tell me what unit his collar denotes?

[McCulloh]

Yup: HKx=Hindenburg Cross with swords. I'll post a blow up of the collar tomorrow.
Thanks.

[AndyD]

Hi Jeff,

I thought that you may be interested in this illustration from B.L.Davis' book,
'GermanUniforms of The Third Reich, 1933-1945'.
This shows three different types of miners uniform.
Please let me know if you would like me to copy the descriptions of the uniforms here.

Kind regards,
Andy

[McCulloh]

Here's a close up of the collar:
Thanks Andy. I have Davis'book.

[VerKuilen Ager]

See your Assmann catalog reprint for a nice close-up of the various crossed-hammer miner's insignia.