Stahlhelm pin for young members!

[Mike Pinkus]

here is a variation not often seen...listed in husken's book as Jung Stahlhelm members pin....maybe for their kids?
anyways ...small pin..approx. 23mm
nice raised helmet
the unique S&L marking
mike
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check out the nuremberg thread...comments needed on the piece just posted
thanks

[Mike Pinkus]

silvered copper core..appear a seperately applied brass helmet..also silvered at one time

[Mike Dunn]

Neat little pin Mike and one I don't have! LOL Mike

[James Noble]

Mike, Not to take anything away from your pin which is very good but either Hüsken changed his mind between yours and my copy of his book or someone got their reference lines crossed see what you think.

[Mike Pinkus]

James
interesting...my edition states young members pin....and the one you post as the civil (office holder?) pin; my number is 4112e and is stated to be "abzeichen fur stahlhelm-Jungmanner"
the other 4112c is stated as being "Zivilabzeichen Ringstahlhelm"
my edition is dated..1997...you?
mike

Mike, Not to take anything away from your pin which is very good but either Hüsken changed his mind between yours and my copy of his book or someone got their reference lines crossed see what you think.

[James Noble]

James
interesting...my edition states young members pin....and the one you post as the civil (office holder?) pin; my number is 4112e and is stated to be "abzeichen fur stahlhelm-Jungmanner"
the other 4112c is stated as being "Zivilabzeichen Ringstahlhelm"
my edition is dated..1997...you?
mike

Mike, I have the older edition (1982) I don't know which is correct, mine has the 4112c listed as both Zivilabzeichen/Ringstahlhelm (ad 1929)
Zivilabzeichen/Jungstahlhelm (ad 1929)
the 4112e is listed as Amtsträgerabzeichen

[VerKuilen Ager]

Don't know what the "Office Holder" refers to, but it seems more likely that the Jungsta attribution is correct. The Jungstahlhelm was for younger men -- not Hitler Youth age but more like college age.

Here's a quick hint on all the Stahlhelm emblems. Originally, the organization limited membership to veterans of the W.W.I front. Both explosive growth and competition with other organizations led to the later acceptance of younger non-veterans and women. Insignia for true "front soldiers" displayed the iron cross on the helmet. The non-front membership had very similar emblems, but without the IC.

[Mike Dunn]

Here are a few other Stahlhelm pins I have---

[Mike Dunn]

another

[Mike Dunn]

common one

[Mike Dunn]

Not Stahlhelm but nice pins with helmets...

[Mike Dunn]

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[Mike Dunn]

nice stickpin from Wurttemberg

[John Bart]

nice stickpin from Wurttemberg

Nice pieces, Mike!
.. John

[Zeller]

jungstahlhelm abzeichen