A closer look at the Seefahrt tinnies

[Robert P.]

The Seefahrt tinnies being my main interest I thought I would post a few findings that caught my eye when studying them recently. Not only are there a few Seefahrt's with different pin fasteners made by F. Zimmermann, but the maker's marks on each tinnie of his have differing engraving styles as well. Here is a montage showing (3) different styles of lettering...

It's very interesting to me that he would actually engrave a different maker marking with each new pin fastener.

Regards,
Robert

[Robert P.]

I also find F. Zimmermann used what looks like a course engraving tool to carve out his dies. The arrows show examples of this course tooling...

Robert

[Robert P.]

In comparison here is a Paulmann & Crone Seefahrt tinnie with what looks like a much more refined engraving technique (the lack of deep course gouging)...

Robert

[Robert P.]

Of all of the Seefahrt tinnies I own I find only one other maker which used a course gouging tool to engrave the obverse of his tinnie, That being Keck & Sohn...

Very similar to the Zimmermann example.

Robert

[Curt Steinbach]

The Seefahrt tinnies being my main interest I thought I would post a few findings that caught my eye when studying them recently. Not only are there a few Seefahrt's with different pin fasteners made by F. Zimmermann, but the maker's marks on each tinnie of his have differing engraving styles as well. Here is a montage showing (3) different styles of lettering...

It's very interesting to me that he would actually engrave a different maker marking with each new pin fastener.

Regards,
Robert

Hi Robert - well you and I are certainly the only 2 I know that collect the variations and your photos and explanations are excellent. You will also note there are differences in the waves, sails, flags and most certainly the eagle when comparing various makers.

Your observation about the differences in the maker marks extend to at least 4 others that I have noticed. What makes this so strange is that a tinnie is for a particular event which would lead one to believe they were made once in preparation for that event. Unlike medals and badges that change over the years due to die wear or different metals used in the production.

Here are the 4 others that I have noticed a difference in the maker mark.

Annetsberger

[Curt Steinbach]

Helbing

[Curt Steinbach]

Schulze - I believe you are aware of this one

[Curt Steinbach]

Ziemer - this one is a little more subtle but the writing on the lower one seems more crisp and certainly the "&" is different

[Robert P.]

Excellent comparisons on these, Curt. I've two Ziemer's; here possibly is another variation in maker marks...

Yes, it's obvious that thousands of Seefahrt's were produced before the ceremonies. Quite the production run.

Robert