Deutsche Handwerkszeichen

[Douglas Jr.]

Hi,

Can someone provide me an image of such award/decoration (Deutsche Handwerkszeichen) ?

It was introduced by Reichspräsident Hindenburg in 1934 and was intended to be awarded to German craftsman of several areas (engravers, painters, sculptors, etc.). Or, at least, this is what I understood.

Other question: is there any list of the awardees?

Please, any information is welcome.

Thanks,

Douglas

[RonR]

Douglas,

Not sure if this will be any help to you, and you likely already have this information, but here is a stickpin from the "NS-Organization Des Handels, Handwerks, Und Gewerbes", or the NS-Hago.

This is the second model badge introduced in 1935.

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[speedytop]

Hi,

the "Deutsches Handwerkszeichen" is not an award and not a decoration.

It is a sign/logo for all german crafts together:

http://www.diverse-handwerke.de/imag...rkszeichen.jpg

Founded in 1935:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handwerkszeichen

It changed in the nintees:

http://www.prologdesign.de/images/handwerk.gif

Uwe

[RonR]

Of course............

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[Douglas Jr.]

Now I understood.
But any craftsman could apply such logo on his works?
What you should do to have to right to use this symbol?

Douglas

[speedytop]

Hi Douglas,

But any craftsman could apply such logo on his works?

No! Only in the central organisation.

The several crafts used their own signs (Zunftzeichen):

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zunftzeichen

http://www.zunftbaum.de/

http://www.hicleones.com/zunft.php

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8...chenfertig.jpg

http://www.edition-digital.com/seite...z/beispiel.htm

etc.

Uwe

[Michael Fay]

Who knows this mark?

OK, I know this is not a tinny or badge, but you guys are showing more wisdom of worker's marks than I have ever seen in any WAF forum threads!
So maybe you guys might know this Wood worker symbol? it is on the back of a wood teller (wood plate) which was found with an SS man's TK ring and personal effects.

I know there is nothing to imply the marks are SS, only that it is a TR era teller (plate).

So please excuse my including this in your forum.

Thanks,
Michael

[Douglas Jr.]

Uwe,

Many thanks for your reply and attention.
I have another question: is there any list of who were the craftsmen authorized to use this symbol?

In order to be more specific: I'm helping a friend who has an engraved pistol from Third Reich era. This pistol carries the symbol below:



According to an expert on this kind of piece this work was made by an engraver called Spoerer or Zoeller, near Zella-Mehlis. This symbol would be used only by those entitled to the Deutsche Handwerkszeichen.

Is this correct?

Douglas.

[burgerhaus]

Is this it?

[speedytop]

Hi Michael,

that is a sign for the maker of the plate. It could be "handmade", but in a factory.
Therefore I think, that it is the factory sign (BCF? or CBE?).


Hi Douglas,

gunsmiths had their own sign (Zunftzeichen):

http://www.suedwesten.de/berufszeich...cd/Buechse.gif

In my opinion there are only two options.

The gunsmith sign could be combinded with the "Handwerkszeichen":

http://www.buechsenmacher.org/fotos/home.jpg

If not, it could be a present of the central organisation "Deutsche Handwerkskammer" to a member of the organisation or to a meritorious men outside the organisation.


Hi burgerhaus,

you can find this sign in the Third Reich, in West-Germany (BRD/FRG) and in East-Germany (DDR/GDR).

Uwe

[Douglas Jr.]

Uwe,

In fact, the sign was applied by the artist who did the engraving work on a gun - not a gunsmith. So, that's why we don't see a gunsmith mark.
I am trying to know who this guy might be.

Robert,

It is the same mark, indeed.

Douglas

[Michael Fay]

Hi Michael,

that is a sign for the maker of the plate. It could be "handmade", but in a factory.
Therefore I think, that it is the factory sign (BCF? or CBE?).

Uwe

Hello Uwe,
thanks for your help. You are most likely correct. The "B" may be the Double S symbol (Scharfes S estzett) as I look carefully.
thanks again,
MF

[speedytop]

Hi Douglas,

"... the sign was applied by the artist who did the engraving work on a gun ..."

That does not change my opinion.

Then I am convinced that it is a present of the central organization of all crafts (Handwerkskammer) with the sign of the presenting organization (my second option).

A (German) engraver (Graveur) would never use the sign of a central organization to mark his own work; he would use this sign (or a similar mark as you can see in Post 7):

http://www.suedwesten.de/berufszeich...cd/Graveur.gif

Uwe

[aldek1944]

In Inowrocław(Hohensalza)

In Inowrocław,in Polen (Hohensalza)
http://nk.pl/#profile/14434213/gallery/album/4/1878

[aldek1944]

http://www.pomorska.pl/apps/pbcs.dll...rams=Itemnr=10

This is in Inowrocław(Hohensalza 1939-1945) in Poland. What is it?