opinions please on this hj membership pin

[nigel2003]

opinions please on this hj membership pin,there is some minor damage to the swasticka,and both pin plate and badge are marked ges gesch,i dont think its good,so would like some feedback.

[Woolgar]

looks like a good pre RZM badge to me

Nick

[Ewan S]

i dont like this pin and i dont think these were marked ges gesch as the rzm had come into play by the time the second patt hj badge was made the standerd offical patt badge? was it that the later made examples of the first patt badges can be found rzm'ed but not the second patt ges gesch??? SO I THINK but i am most prob wrong?

also whats the marking on the badge itself under the rear pin plate?

remember just my opinion

cheers Ewan

[nigel2003]

i dont like this pin and i dont think these were marked ges gesch as the rzm had come into play by the time the second patt hj badge was made the standerd offical patt badge? was it that the later made examples of the first patt badges can be found rzm'ed but not the second patt ges gesch??? SO I THINK but i am most prob wrong?

also whats the marking on the badge itself under the rear pin plate?

remember just my opinion

cheers Ewan

the marking under the pin plate is ges gesch

[nigel2003]

more opinions

more opinions on this hj badge,iam still thinkn its a bad one,but only due to the red enamel dots,i have seen ges gesh marked pin plates which date back to the early 30s,but i have never seen the badge itself markd ges gesch,

[Woolgar]

Here is an interesting discussion on Ges. Gesch

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/FORU...ighlight=gesch


Nick

[nigel2003]

Here is an interesting discussion on Ges. Gesch

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/FORU...ighlight=gesch


Nick

iam quite happy with the ges gesch on the pin plate,as i have an original 1935 hj/daf badge,and the pin plate is markd ges gesch.

[Ewan S]

the marking under the pin plate is ges gesch

thanks nigel why would a maker mark the badge and the pin plate is this common on any TR badges? i would agree the dots under the enamel put me off straight away.

cheers ewan

[Ewan S]

iam quite happy with the ges gesch on the pin plate,as i have an original 1935 hj/daf badge,and the pin plate is markd ges gesch.

i would agree the pin plate and ges gesch looks good but i didnt think you could get the second type badge with ges gesch on it that was all i sure hope the other hj boys chime in because i am only a novice at best and what i say is jmo.

cheers ewan

[nigel2003]

i would agree the pin plate and ges gesch looks good but i didnt think you could get the second type badge with ges gesch on it that was all i sure hope the other hj boys chime in because i am only a novice at best and what i say is jmo.

cheers ewan

the ges gesch is id to my hj/daf badge pin plate which i know is original, and also to a hj membership badge badge postd on the forum,its the red dots that iam not happy about,but sayn that i have seen the same type of dots on the d.j.v,first patten membership badges.see photo

[nigel2003]

more opinions

more opinions please,good or bad.

[Wim Vangossum]

First time I see this type of stippling in a HJ diamond. Rather common on some early party badges etc... The pin looks good IMO.

Regards, Wim

[nigel2003]

photo

here is a better photo of the stippling,

[nigel2003]

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[nigel2003]

ges

here is a photo of the ges gesch under the pin plate