new enamel

[John T]

Hi Fellows-

Somebody just informed me of this thread.

I am the offender who had this piece for sale at my site at www.germanwarbooty.com and I will remove it today...I got taken..the enamel sure does look perfect. I have had a few of the examples with the raised birds and I do have the black version.


Kindest Regards,

John

[Don Scowen]

Sorry for coming to the discussion so late, haven't been around much lately.

Firstly let me congratulate John T for being up front & doing the "right thing". He's a top notch dealer who I've bought from many times over the years & he's never let me down yet. If there is ever a problem, I know John will put it right.

Now to the badge. I'm with Stephen here, Cone's book has a number of mistakes & fakes in it which the reader has to be aware of including the coloured DRK badges. But I do feel that he is correct when it comes to these.

Another point to mention is the maker mark "AK". As Robert mentioned, it has always been said that this badge was produce by Alois Klammer of Innsbruck. As many of you know, for a number of years I have been studying the Austrian shooting badges of the Landesschießen & Kreisschießen of which Klammer made a large number. So far I have never seen them use just an "AK" mark on any badges that they are known to have made. They always use their full name or just Klammer Innsbruck etc. So I think we can also safely say that these badges were not produced by them.

Cheers
Don

[Terry OToole]

yes John is a1 in my books i have bought many times from him, this is a very convincing piece, as a footnote turns out i d forgotton to send payment in the first place "cringe" so John hadn t sent it , when i contacted him to say when it arrived could i return it , John pointed out that he hadn t recieved payment (first time this has happened i hasten to add) i feel a right dick,i ve bought from german war booty for years and would hate to be caste as a prat!

[Mike Pinkus]

i concur all around with what has been said...about the badge and John and everything...the raised eagle rdk are among my favorites (i have a thing for multi piece enamels...)...great thread guys!
mike

Sorry for coming to the discussion so late, haven't been around much lately.

Firstly let me congratulate John T for being up front & doing the "right thing". He's a top notch dealer who I've bought from many times over the years & he's never let me down yet. If there is ever a problem, I know John will put it right.

Now to the badge. I'm with Stephen here, Cone's book has a number of mistakes & fakes in it which the reader has to be aware of including the coloured DRK badges. But I do feel that he is correct when it comes to these.

Another point to mention is the maker mark "AK". As Robert mentioned, it has always been said that this badge was produce by Alois Klammer of Innsbruck. As many of you know, for a number of years I have been studying the Austrian shooting badges of the Landesschießen & Kreisschießen of which Klammer made a large number. So far I have never seen them use just an "AK" mark on any badges that they are known to have made. They always use their full name or just Klammer Innsbruck etc. So I think we can also safely say that these badges were not produced by them.

Cheers
Don

[Jo Rivett]

well thats pretty conclusive , back it goes !

May i ask, exactly what the "conclusive evidence" was ? Is it this below?

The only noticable difference that jumps out at me is all the fonts/graphics seem to be quite a bit thinner on the blue than the black.

.....And the blue ones that don't [have a raised eagle] are a fantasy item [ie: never produced in the TR] ?

This post, is copied 1/1 from Cones book (featured on post 19)
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The main telltale sign of fake RDK badges is poorly defined or outline eye of the large eagle. It should be a solid triangle. Cone has a section on these fakes badges in his book on enamels.

Cone has a couple of clunkers shown as original in the book (who doesn't?), but he is right about the RDK badge.

This thread has "educated people" ? What has it taught?

Spot on matovsky, im new but have learned so much from this thread already from yours and other posters input.