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At Rathau on the Aller, the CO of 5th Royal Tanks advanced on foot to take a cautious look into the town before his tanks moved in. He encountered one of his own officers, a huge Welshman named John Gwilliam who later captained his country's rugby team, 'carrying a small German soldier by the scruff of his neck, not unlike a cat with a mouse.' The Colonel said: 'Why not shoot him?' Gwilliam replied in his mighty Welsh voice: 'Oh no, sir. Much too small.' -
While I believe mine is period it is definitely not a nice one like yours. Mine is a chinzy stamped piece. Would they still be considered the same?Originally posted by David C
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Front looks fine on the "Heim" piece. Anyway, I was thinking of the "Lothr." version.-Ralph AbercrombieComment
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Erik,Originally posted by Elvis
I was hoping someone with more knowledge would have jumped in by now. I do know that mine is an original. They were made in gold, silver and grey colour with no significance placed on the colour. They were both solid and hollow back. Fakes have problems with the lettering/numbering especially the 9's. I have seen some really bad fakes of this badge. Don't take this as a thumbs up but, from the pics, yours looks much closer to mine than many I've seen. It would be nice if someone could post pics of a known original hollow back. All I can find in my references are just like mine. In the meantime you have the badge in your hand how close do the details look to mine?
Cheers,
David.At Rathau on the Aller, the CO of 5th Royal Tanks advanced on foot to take a cautious look into the town before his tanks moved in. He encountered one of his own officers, a huge Welshman named John Gwilliam who later captained his country's rugby team, 'carrying a small German soldier by the scruff of his neck, not unlike a cat with a mouse.' The Colonel said: 'Why not shoot him?' Gwilliam replied in his mighty Welsh voice: 'Oh no, sir. Much too small.'Comment
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Elvis, If I were you I wouldn't worry to much about your Nünberg pin being a hollow stamped piece because that's just another way it was original made. So to answer your question yes be it hollow or solid they would be considered the same. How David don't take this wrong I think yours is perfectly fine but if one were to repro this badge it would be a lot easier to do it with the solid cast badge then a stamped one. Another piece of information from my source book there were an estimated 60,000 people qualified to have this badge, but no number as to how many actually received one.Comment
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Thanks David and James,
My badge looks nearly identical except for one 9 looks a little different. So what do these go for?
Oh and anyone that PM'ed me I appreciate it. I think I PM'ed everyone back. Unfortunately I do not think I will be parting with any of these. Sorry Fellas.
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Elvis, I thing the small variations you see between the two badges is do to the
different types of manufacturing techniquies and different makers. If you look back at my first PM you will see the baseline values I thought these would bring.Comment
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Erik,
This badge was something of a milestone for me. I had wanted a nice example since I started collecting 2 or 3 years ago. They are rare! I have no idea of what the going rate should be but I was more than happy to pay $260 for mine off the Estand a few months back. If I got burned I don't care on this one, I love it and would have gladly paid more.
Cheers,
David.Last edited by David C; 01-30-2004, 09:37 AM.At Rathau on the Aller, the CO of 5th Royal Tanks advanced on foot to take a cautious look into the town before his tanks moved in. He encountered one of his own officers, a huge Welshman named John Gwilliam who later captained his country's rugby team, 'carrying a small German soldier by the scruff of his neck, not unlike a cat with a mouse.' The Colonel said: 'Why not shoot him?' Gwilliam replied in his mighty Welsh voice: 'Oh no, sir. Much too small.'Comment
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