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    are they membership badges ??????

    enclosed come 2 badges
    can you tell me their meaning????
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    2nd one
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      I would say these fall under the realm of both sympathy and campaign badges for the Nazi party.

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        #4
        first one is GES.GESCH marked
        erwache one is RZM and GES.GESCH. marked

        do you feel correct???

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          #5
          Quality and enamel look good.....however, would need to see the reverses and pin setup to judge originality.....

          John G.

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            #6
            Germans awake 1933, sympathiser pin, the other i am unsure of...i agree we need better shots of the other sides , as they do fake these , but look promising at this juncture.

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              NUN ERST RECHTS badge

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                DEUTSCHLAND ERWACHE 1933 badge

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                  NUN ERST RECHTS .... this means NOW ONLY RIGHT

                  can't anybody let a clue about this badge???
                  Last edited by pep; 01-09-2010, 06:15 AM.

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                    #10
                    There are lots of posts and threads about these badges if you use the search function.

                    The "NUN ERST RECHT" ("Now More Than Ever") is an early sympathizer (promotional) badge for both Party and non-Party members. I like the back of this one and would say it's original.

                    The "Adolf Hitler 1933" is a 1933 election badge, but the back is controversial, as the RZM wasn't marking badges in 1933. I have never liked this back, and my opinion is fake. There are believers of this back, though. I'm not one of them.

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                      party badges collector told me that this kind of early sympahtizer badges were also produced at the later date, but with RZM markings; this is explanation.

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                        Originally posted by pep View Post
                        party badges collector told me that this kind of early sympahtizer badges were also produced at the later date, but with RZM markings; this is explanation.
                        Two problems with this - these badges were unofficial badges and therefore would not have been under the RZM even if it had been marking badges in 1933 (which it didn't).

                        Second, if they were re-issued and produced in the RZM period (and there is no evidence they were), they should have a maker number in addition to the RZM logo. None of these ever do.

                        I'll throw in a third reason at no extra cost - all these RZM-marked sympathizer badges share the same wonky RZM logo with the lopsided Z, indicating the backs are all from the same die. The "NUN ERST RECHT" and "HEIL HITLER, LUDENDORFF, v. GRAFE" are all badges from the very early 1920s.

                        Most people haven't a clue who "v. Graefe" was. Along with Ludendorff and Gregor Strasser - who acted as Hitler's representative - Albert von Graefe was one of the three leaders of the "NS Freiheits Bewegung" which was created as a cover and home for members of the banned NSDAP in 1924 following the Putsch.

                        Following the lifting of the ban on the NSDAP, Hitler gladly dismissed von Graefe as a rival with ambitions and ideas of his own. Otto Strasser in his biography "Hitler and I" describes von Graefe as "even more reactionary than Hitler". See: http://www.archive.org/stream/Hitler.../HitI_djvu.txt

                        Ludendorff stayed with the National Socialists for a short while and then publicly fell out with Hitler in the late 1920s, which became outright condemnation by the early 1930s, saying that Hitler would be the destruction of Germany.

                        You can see from the above history why a reissue of this badge was unlikely.

                        And so we can also infer that badges that share the same distinctively wonky RZM logo are also questionable, to say the least.

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                          #13
                          Well said Stephen!

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