Kreissieger and early HJ pin

[Steve C]

Hi Guys,
A couple of recent buys of mine for which I would greatly appreciate your opinions.
I think the Kreissieger is fine and in brilliant condition but not sure about the early HJ membership pin.

[Steve C]

Look foward to you views, the back of the HJ is REDO and GES. GESCH.
Thanks
Steve C

[stuart a.]

the kreissiger is a lovely tham in great condition
congrats
stu

[Jamz]

Also your HJ is is A OK... and in great shape too. John

[Wim Vangossum]

I would not give a positif opinion on the Redo based only on these pictures. they kept on produce them after 1945 with exactly the same reverse. The only difference is that there is slight variation in the lettering. So this badge might be good but I hope some more HJ collectors give their opinion here and compare a few close -ups.

Regards, Theo
(Wim Vangossum)

[Steve C]

Thanks for your replies Guy's.
I have posted a close up of the makers mark,
will try and get a better one.
Regards
Steve C

[Jamz]

I got mine out of it's HJ display and turns out it is unmarked other than the
ges. gesch.
Now I learn that there are other post war one's but without the RZM # and
ges. gesch. together??? Thanks, John

[Steve C]

Tricky little buggers to photograph, hope this shows the makers mark a little better.
I am not convinced on the type of lettering of the makers mark on this badge.
I am almost sure I will return this badge.
Any more thoughts before it goes back?
Regards
Steve

[Steve C]

Hi Guys
just thought I would let you know that the HJ m/ship badge is going back.
I just can't get enough proof that it is ok, so if in doubt, send the bugger back.
Regards
Steve.