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    Nurnberg 1933 Rare Variant

    TOMBAK & ALUMINIUM VARIANT OF THE REICSPARTEITAG NURBERG 1933 BADGE THAT WAS GIVEN FULL PARTY STATUS.
    OPINIONS APPRECIATED ON THESE TWO STUNNING EXAMPLES (WELL AT LEAST I THINK SO ) HAS ANY ONE ENCOUNTERES AN ALUMINIUM VARIANT BEFORE ?
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    Nurnberg 1933

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      #3
      These are one of my fave party badges got to love that eagle and the detail on them, I have never seen an aluminium version is there any chance of getting a side on shot of the crimping from both sides?

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        #4
        The piece on the right would give me some concern.

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          Side Views

          Hello, very good point regarding the crimping, as you have now brough it to my attention it appears as if it is not part of the casting, let me know your thoughts.
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              #7
              The side shot tells more. I would have my grave doubts.

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                1933

                Yes regarding the crimping in most known examples it should be part of the casting but in hand I am still about 80% confident (not 100%) that it is period. Also I have never encountered a fake in alloy or am aware of one of this Badge.
                Regards Martin

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                  #9
                  details

                  Just an observation but the obverse details on the aluminum version look very weak.

                  As an aside, I did see a siver tinnie marked '800'. No photos but a few years back I started a thread.

                  http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ghlight=silver

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                    Variant

                    Tony, interesting thread on the silver variant regarding the aluminium variant, in hand it is far sharper than the picture illustrates and shows deteriation to the aluminium that is consistent with it's age. Certainly it appears an original cast has been used and as there are no fakes ever seen on the market in Aluminium from my point of view it is likely to be genuine. Also the crimping is charateristic of the type used on aluminium Badges (although that the crimping it is not part of the casting is a little suspicious)

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                      #11
                      All in all, this the 1933 rally was a very important event in the Nazi party history but up until now, nobody has recognised this Day Badge for the award it is, or certainly was. For it was given official recognition as a decoration of the party under regulations governing the awards of the party and its form of dress, on 16 March 1935. This order deals with the implementation of the laws as regards to the insidious attacks on the state and the party and with the protection of the party uniforms,
                      (Ref. RGB1, 1.S 387). It continues, 'find enclosed all the articles listed under this order which belong to the party officially, flags and badges of the German National Socialist Workers Party and its affiliated associations', and lists these awards particularly, 'SA - Sportsabzeichen, Coburger Abzeichen, Abzeichen der Parteitag 1929 und 1933, Abzeichen des SA - Treffens Braunschweig'. These are then followed by a second list of civil permitted badges of the party and its associates. This order reinforces that of 20 December 1934.
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                      There is a further order on 14 November 1935 which does not specifically include the 1933 badge, but relates to 'Traditionsabzeichen' and the other awards of the party.
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                      On 6 November 1936 Hitler introduced a further order that formalised the awards of the party and forbade the wearing on party uniforms badges that had, by tradition, become considered genuine party commemorative or honorary awards.
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                      'They may be worn on the civilian overcoat or jacket by all party members on the left lapel. All party members who were permitted to wear their party badge or the national emblem badges which were issued at the party gatherings may now not be worn at all, except that issued in the year 1929 but the ones which will be issued in future at such gatherings may only be worn for the duration of the gathering. The wearing of club medals on duty or party uniform is herewith forbidden or any of the party's associated branches.'
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                      The badge is seen being worn with other awards on period photographs from 1933 through to at least 1942. This poses the problem of why is the 1933 party badge so worn? Also in the Organisationsbuch der NSDAP, 1943 edition, there are three black and white illustrations of The Golden Party Badge, set centrally on a single page, The 1933 Party Day Badge, also set centrally on a single page and the Nürnberg 1929 Party Day Badge, with just a short paragraph above it, being used as the end of the introduction. This could be purely and simply because it represents ten years of Naziism, which I feel is unlikely or that the badge had a greater signification in Nazi history. The order of 6 November 1936 clearly states that, 'Ehrenzeichen der Partei' were permitted and this badge could have acquired the status of a 'Traditionsabzeichen'.
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                      There is a Silver version, both in silvered bronze and silver marked silver. The grade has been encountered in at lest 3 grades.

                      The aliminume piece has all the hallmarks of being a casting.The edge is indistinct and would normally be sharp edged.
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                        #12
                        I have to say i would have doubts on the aluminium version the pin and crimping arent what i would want to see,

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                          I'm not confident with that aluminium one either.....

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                            Originally posted by Don Scowen View Post
                            I'm not confident with that aluminium one either.....
                            Ditto do.

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                              I would have to agree with the majority opinion here. The details are too soft as are the edges especially on the lower left side when viewed from the front. The crimping on the reverse to hold the pin looks bad as well. As soft as aluminum is, it would strike crisp but potentially wear quickly. The softness on the edges here, however, do not look like wear but weakness in design.
                              Richard V

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