Hauptstadt der Bewegung

[Robin Lumsden]

This exhibition-in-the-making looks promising.

http://www.ns-dokumentationszentrum-muenchen.de/

[klaus]

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[stuart a.]

unfortunetly i ,like i assume many others here cant speak german so can anyone break down a rough translation
thanks
stu

[Greg]

Hi Stu,

It's about a planned documentation and study center of National Socialism in Munich. It's apparently influenced by several recent similar efforts in other cities. The Obersalzberg has a documentation center in what used to be the former "guest house" where high ranking visitors to Hitler stayed. Organizations in Nürnberg have worked for years with the city to show the history of what happened in Nürnberg during the Third Reich, and the city has recently set up an exhibition and documentation center.

These centers show the historical facts of how the Nazi party grew, the history of the buildings that still exist, and the story of the resistance movements against the Nazis. Looks like the joint Munich/Bavaria documentation center is intended to do the same thing.

The Bavarian government has provided a plot of land for the Munich center, which looks to be at the site of the former Brown House. The Brown House was damaged in bombing and was taken down after the war. I note that part of the site tells that the existing cellar areas of the Brown House won't be preserved as part of the center, because they don't have any real historical value.

Best,
Greg

[Gregorio Torres]

Talking about Munich...
I was in Munich several days ago and i******180;ll be very frustrated cause nothing in the town explain the nazi past of this place to tourists or interested visitors, except in the Concentration Camp in Dachau. I can buy in other germans towns, as Berlin for example, maps or books where people can have an orientation to visit this historical places, and there is merchandasing (postcards and things like that) to buy as souvenirs, but not in Munich.
I asked in several shops and I remenber specially a very bad reply from the assistant in a souvenirs-kiosk near the Marienplatz.
Maybe the people from Munich recover a part of their memory with this project. Only when the one who know and understand the history can avoid repeating the mistakes from the past. Hiding the reality is not the best way to get it.
Just my impression.
Regards.

[Von Hoth]

well I have never been over there yet but I would have thought they would naturally not want to talk about it.

hell, the laws are even against some of the collecting or displaying of NSDAP items over there with strict penalties. Have they not been taught to avoid this discussion? And as for Dachau, isn't that supported by outside groups to keep it open and visited like Israeli historical institutes, etc.

[Robin Lumsden]

The Bavarian government has provided a plot of land for the Munich center, which looks to be at the site of the former Brown House. The Brown House was damaged in bombing and was taken down after the war. I note that part of the site tells that the existing cellar areas of the Brown House won't be preserved as part of the center, because they don't have any real historical value.

That's interesting Greg. I'm just back from Munich and saw the excavation work at Brown House cellars. I wondered what they were going to build there. The exhibition will probably be a 'must see' for future trips to Munich. I also had a look at the old Freikorps memorial (or what's left of it) on Ichostrasse. Funny how these things have to be 'tracked down'...........a task made much easier by sites like yours.

[Robin Lumsden]

......very frustrated cause nothing in the town explain the nazi past of this place.....

There are some posters and explanatory signs on Brienner Strasse, next to the former Fuehrerbau.