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Originally posted by Don Scowen View PostKreisschießen Dornbirn 1944. Unfortunately the gold with oakleaves has lost it's gold finish, an upgrade needed here .
More later.
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A feast for the eye "der bingle", some lovely pieces you have there.....
In answer to your question, yes, as far as I am concirned the 1943 Kitbühel Meister Klasse is a fake (or rather a fantasy piece based on an original design).
The construction does not match other Tiroler Kreisschießen badges & so far, I have not been able to find any period evidence of it existance. Period publications show the Kreisschießen version with the gold wreath, but not MeisterKlasse.....
Cheers
Don
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Originally posted by Don Scowen View PostA feast for the eye "der bingle", some lovely pieces you have there.....
In answer to your question, yes, as far as I am concirned the 1943 Kitbühel Meister Klasse is a fake (or rather a fantasy piece based on an original design).
The construction does not match other Tiroler Kreisschießen badges & so far, I have not been able to find any period evidence of it existance. Period publications show the Kreisschießen version with the gold wreath, but not MeisterKlasse.....
Cheers
Don
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Originally posted by der bingle View PostThanks Don, a thread like this brings out the best in all of us. thanks for your reply on the questionable meisterklasse. it was one of the last pieces i purchaced before slowing down to a halt 10 years ago....i was always suspicious of the fastner with the uneven split. the circular base that almost looks good. also for a long pin its very thin. regards, Carl
Yes it is an odd piece. I believe that it was made by Floch, but I cannot say for sure. It is well enamelled though.
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Don
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Originally posted by Don Scowen View PostHi Carl,
Yes it is an odd piece. I believe that it was made by Floch, but I cannot say for sure. It is well enamelled though.
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Don
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Originally posted by der bingle View Postiagree Don, Its a massive and well made piece, tho the needle is so long and thin for the weight of the badge...................the top three on my montage are pollath marked on the pin base......................the rest are klammer marked on the badge it self .
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Originally posted by Don Scowen View PostYou nearly had me going there, I was about to say that I'd never seen the Kitzbühel & Kufstein with any other mark but Poellath .
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Don
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thanks for the info Don.
do you know if they are reproducing any of these badges?
in particular the one shown earlier in thread via this link
http://www.dasreich.co.uk/oa104_tir_sch_2784.htm
cheers, del.
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There are a few fake Tiroler shooters about, but thankfully not many. There is the Kitzbühel Meisterklasse mentioned earlier, a Reutte 1944 with oakleaves & a Kufstein 1944 with oakleaves. Lately a fake 1944 Meistershütze has appeared on the market, but that is easy to spot if you know waht to look for. But that's about all at the moment.
There's nothing wrong with the bronze 1939 on that link & they have not yet been faked. It can also be found made by C.Poellath, Schrobenhausen.
Cheers
Don
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