HJ Honour badge in Gold with OL

[Pascal H.]

I found this badge on one of the auction sites.
I would like to hear your opinion on this badge.
No, I am not the buyer because I don’t think this badge is original.

First, I have never heard of the RZM code “BM 1/122”. I also believe that there were only 250 of these badges awarded, so number 424 looks a bit high.
Also if real I would suspect to fetch a very high price and probably not being sold on an auction site.

Just my opinion but what do you think, do I miss a opportunity to buy a rare badge?

KR
Pascal

[Pascal H.]

Reverse

[sjl]

You are right - it's a fake. There was no "BM" RZM prefix, and if you look, there are odd additions inside the M of the logo. For a badge that was often worn above the Gold Party Badge, the example shown is pretty rough looking.

[Bob Hritz]

Pascal,

'I don't understand the markings, but it does have the flaw which is evident in Dr. Doehle's book. I have not seen a fake with this flaw.

I have seen an entirely unmarked pin, exactly the same, on the obverse, with only a 2 digit serial number on the reverse.

There is a lack of information over the "BM" mark and many collectors believe it to be fantasy marking. I am not so sure.

Bob Hritz

[Stan]

HJ Honour Badge with Oakleaves

I am very sceptical about this badge. The only one's I believe in are hallmarked "585" gold. See photo.

Stan

[Robin Lumsden]

If the 'B' denoted a second 'wearing' copy.......like the 'B' marked HJ proficiency badges, then the RZM mark would be M1/122.

[WARLORD]

I am cofident that this is a copy. Many problems. The piece Stan shows is classical, also there is the silver gilt form and believe this or not the rare zinc wear piece.

[sjl]

If the 'B' denoted a second 'wearing' copy.......like the 'B' marked HJ proficiency badges, then the RZM mark would be M1/122.

Robin is right - "B" on its own (and usually written large) on HJ badges denoted a wearer's copy, but it appeared instead of a serial number, not with one.

It appears the fakers got confused and added it to the RZM prefix "M", and then gilded the lily by putting on a serial number too.

There is no mention of a "BM" prefix in any of the RZM literature. Run fast and far from anything with this mark - usually fake HJ honour badges in gold with and without oakleaves.

[Ron Weinand]

Yes, I agree that this one is bad.
Ron Weinand
Weinand Militaria

[Pascal H.]

Thank you all for your opinions .

I just returned from a show in Germany and for sale was the same badge.
The only difference was that it had a lower number., I think 242 if I remember correctly. Asking price €50.

KR
Pascal

[WARLORD]

The price would be a steel. A real one would cost £5000.00 + if you could find one.

[Pascal H.]

The price would be a steel. A real one would cost £5000.00 + if you could find one.

Hi Christopher,
The price of €50 in this case would be wasted money .

KR
Pascal