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    1936 Winter Olympic Badge -- Opinions Please

    Does anyone know if these Winter Olympic badges are real or just fantasy? I am considering one like this (not this one as it has already been sold), but haven't purchased it yet and want to be sure before I spend any good money. Many thanks!
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    I do not know anything about these badges but the manufacturer's logo seems to be correct with slightly curved letters.

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      nice pin imo...i think i have one similiar...dont think mine is FLL marked though

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        Gents, I have never seen an example of this badge with a Haken Kreuz on it. Maybe others have. Here is my example of this badge but w/o Haken Kreuz. I hope this helps you make your decision Mr. Hastings. Manion's Volume 2 item 756 shows an example w/o Haken Kreuz as well. Robert
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            Another with border but w/o Haken Kreuz.
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                I have no specific information, but I would be very careful about a badge with a swastika. The official badge design by the IOC for the 1936 Winter Olympics had no swastika. It can be seen on the IOC website here. http://www.olympic.org/uk/games/past...GT=2&OLGY=1936 (button on upper right).

                It also makes sense as Germany was deliberately downplaying the Nazi angle at the Olympics for foreigners, with the swastika appearing on very few IOC items (tickets, medals, etc.) so as not to scare off the world.

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                  Stephen Thanks for that link. Something nice to read on a grey morning. Robert

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                    Originally posted by sjl View Post
                    I have no specific information, but I would be very careful about a badge with a swastika. The official badge design by the IOC for the 1936 Winter Olympics had no swastika. It can be seen on the IOC website here. http://www.olympic.org/uk/games/past...GT=2&OLGY=1936 (button on upper right).

                    It also makes sense as Germany was deliberately downplaying the Nazi angle at the Olympics for foreigners, with the swastika appearing on very few IOC items (tickets, medals, etc.) so as not to scare off the world.
                    I wonder if the ones w/o swastika were official period made versions for the Olympics and the ones adorned w/ the Swastika were made later by the Nazi's for a Commemorative flavour?

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                      Originally posted by Darrell View Post
                      I wonder if the ones w/o swastika were official period made versions for the Olympics and the ones adorned w/ the Swastika were made later by the Nazi's for a Commemorative flavour?

                      I think it's more likely that the ones w/o Swastika were official period made versions and the ones with the Swastika were made post war for the collecting market. They are found quite regularly "under the counter" in badge shops in Munich...

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                        Originally posted by Don Scowen View Post
                        I think it's more likely that the ones w/o Swastika were official period made versions and the ones with the Swastika were made post war for the collecting market. They are found quite regularly "under the counter" in badge shops in Munich...

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                        Possibly. The FLL maker mark looks promising and not one you find too often in post war badges.

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                          Originally posted by B. Hastings View Post
                          Does anyone know if these Winter Olympic badges are real or just fantasy? I am considering one like this (not this one as it has already been sold), but haven't purchased it yet and want to be sure before I spend any good money. Many thanks!

                          Thats a fake they still produce and sell here in Garmisch-Partenkirchen (my hometown). They exist without swaz as well. The main difference is that the letters of the fake ones are made of emaille, while the letters of the original-ones are surronded by the emaillie.

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                            Originally posted by Gran Sasso View Post
                            Thats a fake they still produce and sell here in Garmisch-Partenkirchen (my hometown). They exist without swaz as well. The main difference is that the letters of the fake ones are made of emaille, while the letters of the original-ones are surronded by the emaillie.
                            Gran,
                            This has been an interesting discussion. Thanks for your advice guys, will let this one go by. Hopefully no one else will get stung!

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                              Originally posted by burgerhaus View Post
                              Gents, I have never seen an example of this badge with a Haken Kreuz on it. Maybe others have. Here is my example of this badge but w/o Haken Kreuz. I hope this helps you make your decision Mr. Hastings. Manion's Volume 2 item 756 shows an example w/o Haken Kreuz as well. Robert
                              same here, I have also never seen any of the Olympic Pins with a swastika on it...otherwise, I think it looks fine. Cheers, Torsten.

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