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    #16
    Originally posted by ethreecee View Post
    I hear a lot of talk, but a picture comparison is worth 10,000 words. I am sure that Jon means well, but!
    Show me the comparison and I will jump all over Manion's myself, but I have nothing to prove my argument, don't you see what I mean? You will never get anywhere running around believing everything people tell you with some sort of proof I was the 32 President of the United States, but I don't have any of my white house photos.
    I see what you mean. If you do a search here, or over at axishistory.com I am sure you will find several pictures of original 2nd pattern Blood Orders to compare this one to. I have several in my Blood Order digital database, but I made promises to all of the owners who gave me the images that i would not share them or post them anywhere. Sorry I can't help provide a picture for you, but maybe Jon will be able to pull through in a couple of days.

    Rob

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      #17
      There are many originals illustrated in reference books, for those who take the time to look. Check FF&F Vol2 by Angolia, Forman's Guide, and Niemann's fine Bewertungs-Katalog of Orders.

      Bob Hritz
      In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

      Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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        #18
        ThankU
        Here are the concerns and perhaps you can show me a comparison
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          #19
          the reverse.
          And I will search out the site for pictures also, thanks again.
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            #20
            Formans

            Man-oh-Man,
            This is a pretty close race. This is the example of Type 2 out of Forman's
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              #21
              front

              front with eagle details
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                #22
                reverse

                The Manion's one compares very well.
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                  #23
                  Manions rays and swazi

                  I don't see anything different betwee Manions rays and swazi and the Forman's
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                    #24
                    I understand what you mean,however I don't really care if you believe my opinion or not ,I'm not going to buy it for sure,if you want to then go ahead. I am only on the Internet 5 mins here and there all week, so as soon as I get a resonable amount of time and some daylight for a photo I'll try to get something done . However I'm not marking down an A-Z of what to look for exactly in an original for obvious reasons.

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                      #25
                      Man oh man, what a cop out! Big talk and no show! Some expert!
                      boohoo, no sunshine! don't you own a camera or a scanner?
                      boohoo, you don't believe me, but I AM THE EXPERT and I do not have to prove anything!
                      What a copout!

                      oooo I wouldn't buy it...i cannot prove why, but I am the BLOOD ORDER EXPERT! CRAP!

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                        #26
                        Blood Order

                        Look are you some kind of nut.If you cannot research on your own from inumerable sources on sites like this or the web thats your failing.The junk on Manions is what it is ...er junk.If on the other hand you need some psychiatric help well go ahead , but save your mindless drivel for people of your ilk.

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                          #27
                          Oh grow up, you chump! I made my point! I answered all the elements that the expert came up with! Where is his answer! He is the one that called it a fake. Them some chump child like you without anything but an opinion chimes in! butt out stupid! I'm the only one that has provided any side of the argument with examples and answered all the points of contention and the expert is waiting for the sun to come up!

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                            #28
                            Here Kyle
                            This one is right up your alley
                            http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Old-GERMAN-...QQcmdZViewItem

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                              #29
                              blood order.

                              Why is it that a sesible discussion has to turn into a personal slanging match.Jon has given reasons and explained why,he cannot give too many reasons why this is not correct.I myself have a blood order that Jon as seen photo,s of. I am quite happy,when i was told it was genuine.Why can you not listen when someone is explaining to you??

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                                #30
                                Full moon

                                It must be a full moon or something.Our man from Oregon seems to be under some kind of spell...possibly vodka.Blood Orders are well copied, the one in question is awful.Having studied these for many years there are several key things to look for- a real one will jump off the page vis a vis quality.

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