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    hi. its badge friekorps werwolf? wht you think?
    regards

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      #3
      My friend that's a Nice FK "wehrwolf" badge.

      Cheers
      T

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        #4
        Originally posted by Drapeau Noir
        My friend that's a Nice FK "wehrwolf" badge.

        Cheers
        T



        What is FK Wehrwolf ?
        Cheers,
        Benten

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          #5
          Der Wehrwolf Freikorps was a nazi resistence group created at the end of the IIWW to operate against the allied troops and collaborators inside Germany. But... I didn******180;t know that a badge had been maked for them. If this is an original so Miraul had a small fortune. Cheers!!!
          Best regards from Spain.
          Gori.
          Last edited by Gregorio Torres; 05-23-2006, 05:31 AM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Gregorio Torres
            Der Wehrwolf Freikorps was a nazi resistence group created at the end of the IIWW to operate against the allied troops and collaborators inside Germany. But... I didn´t know that a badge had been maked for them. If this is an original so Miraul had a small fortune. Cheers!!!
            Best regards from Spain.
            Gori.
            Gori, thanks for your kind reply.
            Benten

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              #7
              Sorry to disagree but this pin actually refers to the Pre Third Reich Freikorps "Wehrwolf".

              Best,
              Toby.

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                #8
                Actually there were two "Wehrwolf".
                One was a Freikorp Unit in 1919 (and your badge was their symbol)
                The second one was the SS-Wehrwolf, NSDAP Partisans organization created in 1945 and in activity untill 1957.

                Cheers
                T

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Drapeau Noir
                  Actually there were two "Wehrwolf".
                  One was a Freikorp Unit in 1919 (and your badge was their symbol)
                  The second one was the SS-Wehrwolf, NSDAP Partisans organization created in 1945 and in activity untill 1957.

                  Cheers
                  T
                  Indeed. However, the badge in question is for the Freikorps and not the resistance movement.

                  Toby.
                  Last edited by TobyR; 05-23-2006, 08:30 AM.

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                    #10
                    The first Wehrwolf (1923-33) was a 'resistance' organisation rather than a Freikorps. It was set up to oppose the French occupation of the Ruhr, but was more of a uniformed right-wing 'social' organisation than a fighting group. It did not bear arms.

                    The last lot (1944-45) were saboteurs and fighters against the Allied occupation forces.

                    They all took their name from the resistance groups of the 30 Years War, popularised by the book 'Der Wehrwolf' by Hermann Loens (KIA 1914).

                    The badge that started this thread is rare, but the condition is pretty poor. You can pick these up occasionally, and the going rate for one in good condition is about £100 GBP.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Robin Lumsden
                      The first Wehrwolf (1923-33) was a 'resistance' organisation rather than a Freikorps. It was set up to oppose the French occupation of the Ruhr, but was more of a uniformed right-wing 'social' organisation than a fighting group. It did not bear arms.
                      It was a political Kampfbund, similar to SA or Roter Frontk******228;mpferbund , one
                      of the most prominent leaders was Manfred von Killinger in the mid to end 1920s
                      before joining the SA (source: Bert Wawrzinek: Manfred von Killinger (1886-1944).
                      Ein politischer Soldat zwischen Freikorps und Ausw******228;rtigem Amt,
                      2004 ISBN 3-920722-72-8, includes pictures of MvK attending a Werwolf-march).

                      A little bit more information can be found in Ernst Posses book Die politischen Kampfb******252;nde Deutschlands.

                      In my opinion we have some photos already posted here, the skull-flag
                      is quite typical and very often they wore the prussion style skull on their sleaves.

                      Best regards,
                      Henrik

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                        #12
                        Wehrwolves groups have been around longer than the Freikorps era. They were loosly formed groups that fought what they considered enemies of thier areas.

                        I have 2 well used Wehrwolf pins that were in my Grandfather's belongings and he immigrated to the US before the turn of the century.

                        It was during the Freikorps era that a Wehrwolf group became uniformed and produced the insignia we see in collections today.

                        Bob Hritz
                        In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

                        Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bob Hritz View Post
                          Wehrwolves groups have been around longer than the Freikorps era. They were loosly formed groups that fought what they considered enemies of thier areas.

                          I have 2 well used Wehrwolf pins that were in my Grandfather's belongings and he immigrated to the US before the turn of the century.


                          Bob Hritz
                          I have just noticed this old thread.

                          Can you show us the pins?

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                            #14
                            Well guys

                            Lets get History online and the original word wehrwolf was born in 1910. The name was chosen after the title of Hermann Löns' novel, Der Wehrwolf (1910). Set in the Celle region, Lower Saxony, during the Thirty Years' War (1618–48), the novel concerns a peasant, Harm Wulf, who after his family is killed by marauding soldiers, organises his neighbours into a militia who pursue the soldiers mercilessly and execute any they capture, referring to themselves as Wehrwölfe. Löns said that the title was a dual reference to the fact that the peasants put up a fighting defence and to the protagonist's surname of Wulf, but it also had obvious connotations with the word Werwölfe in that Wulf's men came to enjoy killing. While not himself a Nazi (he died in 1914) Löns' work was also popular with the German far right, and the Nazis celebrated his work. Indeed, Celle's local newspaper began serialising Der Wehrwolf in January 1945
                            After it became clear, by March 1945, that the remaining German forces had no chance of stopping the Allied advance, Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels seized upon the idea of Werwolf, and began to foster the notion, primarily through Nazi radio broadcasts, that Werwolf was a clandestine guerrilla organization comprising irregular German partisans, similar to the many insurgency groups which the Germans had encountered in the nations they occupied during the war. Despite such propaganda, however, this was never the actual nature of Werwolf, which in reality was always intended to be a commando unit comprising uniformed troops. Another popular myth about Werwolf is that it was intended to continue fighting underground even after the surrender of the Nazi government and the German military. In fact, no effort was ever made by the Nazi leadership to develop an insurgency to continue fighting in the event of defeat, in large measure because Adolf Hitler, as well as other Nazi leaders, refused to believe that a German defeat was possible, and they regarded anyone who even discussed the possibility as defeatists and traitors. As a result, no contingency plans to deal with defeat were ever authorized. However, as a result of Goebbels' efforts, Werwolf had, and in many cases continues to have, a mythological reputation as having been an underground Nazi resistance movement, with some even claiming that Werwolf attacks continued for months, or even years, after the end of the war. Its perceived influence went far beyond its actual operations, especially after the dissolution of the Nazi regime. So the post war wehrwolf is a lie made up by the allied to make a excuse for "something" imo proberly to get more funds and a excuse for vioalating peoples fundamental rights. Later in history ( present time )the allied idmit that its was a lie.
                            we got another wehrwolf name thoe the Führerhauptquartier Wehrwolf was the codename used for one of Adolf Hitler's World War II Eastern Front military headquarters located in a pine forest about 12 kilometres (7.5 mi) north of Vinnytsia in Ukraine that was used between 1942 and 1943. It was one of a number of other Führer Headquarters throughout Europe, and the most easterly ever used by Hitler in person.
                            Imm sure that these subjects has been told meny times on this forum and meny pics has been provided, so go search anyway heres a couple i found elswhere and not from my collection.

                            The 2 pics last in this tread is from my own collection of wehrwolfs medal and abz from the pre period imported from DE but has not yet been confirmed.

                            cheers guys

                            the pis here is from elswhere and not from my collection

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                            Last edited by Carsten135; 04-29-2011, 10:46 PM.

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                              #15
                              the medal is not confirmed and in my own view a

                              the abz whit the red eyes is from a private De collection that i got meny years ago.

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                              cheers

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