Enamel Pin

[militaria1940]

Hi Everybody

I Want To Sell this enamel pin .

He is original or fake ?

Can You Give Me A Reasonable Selling Price.

Thanks

[militaria1940]

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[burgerhaus]

M1/129. Red Flag on this number. If memory serves, this badge pre-dates RZM standardization. Others with more information will chime in. Robert

[militaria1940]

M1/129. Red Flag on this number. If memory serves, this badge pre-dates RZM standardization. Others with more information will chime in. Robert

hi

Thank's for your answer.
Do you know the value ?

Regards

[Don Scowen]

I agree with Robert here. Even without the discussion as whether these should be RZM marked or not, the mark of M1/129 makes it a very doubtful piece.

As to price, you can pick new ones of these (sold as copies) up at about $10.

Cheers
Don

[sjl]

Let me add my "me too". Don is right - I've never seen anything good with a M1/129 mark.

[barryG]

seen loads of these, bad fake Im afraid, terrible enamelling on the red border

[militaria1940]

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Thanks everybody for your help.
I'm searching to internet and I find for rzm M1/129 Seiler & Comp., Geldem specialist for Insignia and Badges. With this information I think it's ok. Is that's possible to send me a foto with a good example ?

[jscott]

I'm searching to internet and I find for rzm M1/129 Seiler & Comp., Geldem specialist for Insignia and Badges. With this information I think it's ok. Is that's possible to send me a foto with a good example ?

There ain't no such thing as a good example M1/129, I've searched for the last few years.<!-- / message -->

[ben baars]

Militaria 1940, if you look at the M1/129 you see that the digits all are irregular ( no consequent style) and they are a bit rounded (specially look at the nine) .
Cheers,
Benten

[sjl]

M1/129 was an issued RZM license number - Seiler & Comp. - except it doesn't seem to appear on any genuine badges. The company may not have actually produced any after applying. Some companies got an RZM license then found they couldn't make any money under the NSDAP pricing structure, went out of business or merged. Either way, Seiler & Comp. doesn't seem to have made any metal badges under their M1/129 license number.

Fakers have used this number for some reason - maybe because there are no orginals to compare it to - and it appears on the reverse of a variety of fake badges.

[militaria1940]

M1/129 was an issued RZM license number - Seiler & Comp. - except it doesn't seem to appear on any genuine badges. The company may not have actually produced any after applying. Some companies got an RZM license then found they couldn't make any money under the NSDAP pricing structure, went out of business or merged. Either way, Seiler & Comp. doesn't seem to have made any metal badges under their M1/129 license number.

Fakers have used this number for some reason - maybe because there are no orginals to compare it to - and it appears on the reverse of a variety of fake badges.

hi

Thanks for all of your information

cheers

Luc

[jray2986]

Enamel Pin

I agree with <!--StartFragment --> Stephen , this is another fake you see at Flea Markets

[FW 200]

I believe all of these, as well as the Adolph Hitler 1933 badges are either outright fakes, or fantasy pieces. I have never seen one regardless of maker marks either on this forum, any other forum or in person that anyone agreed on as being original. Charlie