Djv Shooting Badges??

[Mike Dunn]

Here are two DJV shooting badges that I have had for a while. Two questions: Are these post WWII shoothing badges as I can't find them in my reference books. They are marked Ges. Gesch. ST&L.-Was Ges Gesch used on post war pin, badges and stickpins? Thanks for any help. Mike

[Nimble1]

Mike,
I believe they are pre-war but Huston Coates over at GD.Com is the final word on this type of item. If you decide to sell them let me know as this is an area that I collect.