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**upbeek** · 03-22-2006, 04:29 PM

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hi jon thats an intersting tinnie you have there,i suppose it would be worth a little bit more to the right person
chay

**ben baars** · 03-22-2006, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Jon Fish

Okay well, Tinnies are not my speciality but I got a lovely group of them on e-stand recently and this one I found interesting. Is it related to the current modern day Siemens the phone manufacturer ? And if so I am guessing this puts a positive value on it ? Any think anyones knows about this one let me know on this thread,cheers

Here 2 links about Siemens................

http://www.religioustolerance.org/fin_nazi.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2233890.stm

**Jon Fish** · 03-22-2006, 05:39 PM

Thanks Ben.
Before I get to worked up,are people confirming this is the Siemens referenced to in the tinnie ?
It says
Bitburg Siemens Bauunion. Is this some kind of Siemens union tinnie ?

**sjl** · 03-23-2006, 09:47 AM

I am sure it is "the" Siemens that today makes telecom products, medical imaging technology, etc. They were an active industry throughout the period and up to the present.

It probably isn't a union as we understand it - what you have is more likely a building ("bau") society donation badge.

**John Bart** · 03-23-2006, 12:50 PM

John,
Very nice seldom seen badge

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**burgerhaus** · 03-24-2006, 12:25 PM

Jon, Very nice tinnie. A new treat for my eyes. Here is a little more about Siemens during the war years from BACKING HITLER by Robert Gellately taken from page 215
"In the Spring of 1941 when the deal was struck between IG Farben and the SS, however, it accelerated the trend by which many of Germany's most renowned companies such as Siemens collaborated in the enslavement and murder of concentration camp prisoners. Siemens was by the Nazi era Europe's largest and most powerful electrical corporation, and although it did not initiate the idea of using prisoners in early 1940 when the possibility was presented in the first place, the company was quick to respond and soon integrated German-Jewish women from the Ravensbruck camp into the production process. This experimental use of slave labour proved profitable because (from September 1941), managers and foremen learned to use the threat of dismissal, which would then have been followed by deportation, as a prod to get prisoners to work harder. After relatively modest beginnings, using less than 2,00 camp prisoners at Siemens in Berlin in 1940, the numbers more than doubled the next year. By 1944, when more subcamps were constructed and the company's production facilities were decentralized, it exploited some 15,200 (Jewish and non-Jewish) prisoners, and had dealings with virtually all the main concentration camps. According to the testimony of survivors, the use of threats and terror to increase productivity was standard practice."

Hope this helps. Robert

**Jon Fish** · 03-25-2006, 03:45 PM

Thanks guys,nice to learn about this interesting piece. However as I bought it in a lot of tinnies that were not even for me but a friend of mine who is starting out I am looking to sell this seperatly , as he is not after rare or hard to find. What would be fair to ask ,and is anyone interested,I can put it on the e-stand of course

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