Pin badges, can anyone identify it?

[5thElement]

I've been offered these 2 pin badges but im pretty new to this and dont know what these were for or even if they're genuine. He says they are genuine but just thought i'd ask here anyway.

Any info on these would be greatly appreciated. Also, what kind of price would one expect to pay for these?






Thanks

[5thElement]

Think i've found the answer to the first one, a Kyffhauserbund pin.

[Adrian Stevenson]

The Veterans association one looks good, but I am not so sure about the political eagle stick pin? Even though it is small, the quality/detail is very poor.

This type of pin was worn by Hitler in the early 1930's. Sometimes in the lapel, other times as a tie pin.

Cheers, Ade.

[5thElement]

Thanks, dont have a good feeling about the eagle one either, looks a bit poorly made in my opinion.