2 x Alpenverein Badges...what era?

[torstenbel]

Hi Guys, I find these Alpenverein pins and badges very difficult to date...here are another two. The first one is a 40 year membership one for the Austrian AV which I think my be pre-1945 and the other is some kind of award or achievment pin I think, which I think is post 1945???...what do you think? Cheers, Torsten.

[torstenbel]

...and here is the reverse of the first one...

Hi Guys, I find these Alpenverein pins and badges very difficult to date...here are another two. The first one is a 40 year membership one for the Austrian AV which I think my be pre-1945 and the other is some kind of award or achievment pin I think, which I think is post 1945???...what do you think? Cheers, Torsten.

[torstenbel]

...second one, which I think is post-1945...?

Hi Guys, I find these Alpenverein pins and badges very difficult to date...here are another two. The first one is a 40 year membership one for the Austrian AV which I think my be pre-1945 and the other is some kind of award or achievment pin I think, which I think is post 1945???...what do you think? Cheers, Torsten.

[torstenbel]

...and the reverse of the second one....

Hi Guys, I find these Alpenverein pins and badges very difficult to date...here are another two. The first one is a 40 year membership one for the Austrian AV which I think my be pre-1945 and the other is some kind of award or achievment pin I think, which I think is post 1945???...what do you think? Cheers, Torsten.