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    Beer putsch commemorative medal?

    Never seen this before. Is it a fantasy piece or something that existed. I could only find online from a non reliable dealer.
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    #2
    Originally posted by schönbeck View Post
    Never seen this before. Is it a fantasy piece or something that existed. I could only find online from a non reliable dealer.
    It’s an original

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      #3
      Never seen before but details are really good. I vote for

      Mike

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        #4
        There's something familiar about this piece...or about the artwork on it. The dates on the obverse indicate the first 'Putsch Commemoration' after the NSDAP's ascent to power, the tenth anniversary of the event itself. The inscription on the reverse is vague -- "Will you remain my good comrade in eternal life". This medallion may have been created as a commercial sales piece for the 9 November 1933 event...? It's interesting that the Feldherrnhalle representation on the obverse is missing the lions and the statuary, so significant to that building.

        Br. James

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          #5
          Run, Run, Run - poor copy, it has terrible details compared to the originals,

          Cheers,
          Michael
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            #6
            Originally posted by mloppkit View Post
            Run, Run, Run - poor copy, it has terrible details compared to the originals,

            Cheers,
            Michael
            Michael, you’re quite right.

            i meant to say that the badge did exist, but this example is a copy.

            i own a mint example in the fitted box, but I’m not sure how to post pictures in the new format.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Br. James View Post
              The inscription on the reverse is vague -- "Will you remain my good comrade in eternal life".
              It's a quote from the last stanza of Ich hatt' einen Kameraden.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ich_ha...inen_Kameraden

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                #8
                Originally posted by Gary Symonds View Post

                Michael, you’re quite right.

                i meant to say that the badge did exist, but this example is a copy.

                i own a mint example in the fitted box, but I’m not sure how to post pictures in the new format.
                Gary, I think you are spot on, this badge did exist but this example is a copy. Congratulations, these are quite scarce - I have never seen one in its original box- I hope you manage to post a picture for us.

                Br. James went to considerable effort interpreting the meaning of this medallion for us in a previous thread and I will post his comments again here:

                "The medallion's symbolism is interesting, though having seen the symbolism of breaking chains of bondage in other NS eagle symbols and a variety of other media, my take on this would be that the eagle represents the National Socialist Spirit or ethos as it breaks free from the bonds of oppression -- the Nazis always saw themselves as being oppressed by the German and the Bavarian governments, either Weimar or its predecessor, and they symbolized that sense of oppression as being shackled in slavery. "Freedom" -- "Freiheit" -- was the word which self-symbolized the NS Movement throughout the Kämpfzeit, and breaking the chains of oppression was an ever-present mantra.

                Of course the helmeted soldier laying in front of the FHH, still clutching his beloved NS banner (probably the Blutfahne) represents the "blood sacrifice" of all who died during the Putsch, and ever since -- the Putsch being seen as the beginning of the NS Revolution to take back the nation from Marxist/Leninist oppression. The NS Eagle ascends toward the bright SUN -- depicted in the form of the gleaming swastika as it dawns over the FHH and the Odeonsplatz, bringing that NEW DAY that the Hitler Movement champions.

                Br. James"

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                  #9
                  Wow!! Thank you so much, Michael -- your memory is obvious FAR BETTER than mine...though I did note that this medallion design seemed "familiar" to me! But you remembered that this piece was discussed previously, and that is so important.

                  In reviewing my previous comments, I am surprised to see that I apparently didn't notice that the FHH representation was missing the lions and the statuary at that time. I guess I was more concerned with the symbolism of the design than with the accuracy of the building's display...

                  And thanks, too, to HPL2008 for adding that the wording on the reverse is "...a quote from the last stanza of Ich hatt' einen Kameraden." I should have noticed that, too; the context of the translation is fundamental to the touching sentiment of "I (once) had a comrade."

                  So, now that this medallion design is before us again, does anyone have any further ideas about what the original was created for, whether it was conceived as an award or as a money-raiser, and why more of these pieces are not seen today? Perhaps this was a prototype and the project was never carried forward to completion?

                  Br. James

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Br. James View Post
                    Wow!! Thank you so much, Michael -- your memory is obvious FAR BETTER than mine...though I did note that this medallion design seemed "familiar" to me! But you remembered that this piece was discussed previously, and that is so important.

                    In reviewing my previous comments, I am surprised to see that I apparently didn't notice that the FHH representation was missing the lions and the statuary at that time. I guess I was more concerned with the symbolism of the design than with the accuracy of the building's display...

                    And thanks, too, to HPL2008 for adding that the wording on the reverse is "...a quote from the last stanza of Ich hatt' einen Kameraden." I should have noticed that, too; the context of the translation is fundamental to the touching sentiment of "I (once) had a comrade."

                    So, now that this medallion design is before us again, does anyone have any further ideas about what the original was created for, whether it was conceived as an award or as a money-raiser, and why more of these pieces are not seen today? Perhaps this was a prototype and the project was never carried forward to completion?

                    Br. James
                    Guys, can anyone post on this thread the steps necessary to post pictures, not thumbnail size, from an iPhone?

                    I am truly at a loss! I want to post pictures of my mint example in the box.

                    Any tips would appreciated.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Gary Symonds View Post

                      Guys, can anyone post on this thread the steps necessary to post pictures, not thumbnail size, from an iPhone?

                      I am truly at a loss! I want to post pictures of my mint example in the box.

                      Any tips would appreciated.
                      Nobody can help. Is it a secret?

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                        #12
                        Hi Gary,

                        Sorry that you're having a problem posting photos -- I am no photographer and have never posted a photo, so I don't have any information to share with you. You may want to direct your question to the WAF Administration; click on the "Contact Us" bar at the bottom of this page and see if that provides you with the directions you seek. I've used that way of asking a question, and have gotten the response I needed.

                        Best of luck,

                        Br. James

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                          #13
                          I've only posted photos on my desktop but never from an iPhone. Does the area for adding a message not have the 'upload attachment' button below?
                          Erich
                          Festina lente!

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                            #14
                            Michael,
                            thanks for posting the earlier interpretation of Br James on this medallion. James is Brilliant, but doesn’t surprise me for Br James! Great stuff!

                            Gary,

                            I was having trouble with the edit function - I posted photos three times each on Bill D’s great thread about the Pioneer of Labour badge in wear! I think I have that worked out now.

                            But for IPhone/ photos I hope this helps you -

                            Since I think you are taking a photo of your item, take your photo with you phone, then, go to the photo, pull it up, hit your power button on the right, and you top volume button on the left, at the same time, and you will make a screen shot of whatever is on you phone. You can then crop the photo if you wish, and ‘Save to Photos’. It will have about the perfect size to post on WAF. Post this new copy to the thread, since the original photo may be too big.

                            I hope that helps Gary!

                            John

                            also-
                            there is a size choice when you select your photo to post to WAF - thumbnail, small, medium, large, original.

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                              #15
                              Aw shucks, John...!! And I'm still hoping for someone to come forward with further information as to what this piece was originally created for...? I suppose that the open spaces on the reverse, on the face of the swastika base, could have been left that way to provide an area for an inscription of some sort to be added...but again, what sort of event or occasion was this medallion created for?

                              Br. James

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