Jos Fuess GPB real?

[athomas]

Hello,

I’m in the process of getting this GPB by Fuess and I came across a site that explained in detail some of the 80’s made Austrian Fakes. I’m concerned this maybe one of them due to the lettering font of the “H” and “I.”

Here is the site I was speaking of

http://pages.interlog.com/~sjl/GPB/fakesnew3.html


Can someone with more expertise please advise?

Thanks,
Thomas

[Wim Vangossum]

Stay away from it. A clear (Austrian) fake!


Regards, Wim

[Br. James]

Hi Thomas,

As I responded to your first note on the Political Organizations thread:

Regardless of whether or not you placed your question "in the wrong area" here on WAF, I can assure you that the badge you've shown us is indeed one of the pieces known as "the Austrian Fake." I would suggest that you immediately cease dealing with whomever you are "in the process of getting this badge from," and hopefully you have not paid any money for this as yet.

BTW, the website you reference is maintained by one of our colleagues here on WAF, and is a central reference point for anyone interested in "proofing" a GPB.

Welcome among us, Thomas; it's good to have you here!

Br. James

[Gary Symonds]

Since we know that Fuess was not a manufacturer, but a designer, why is it out of the question that the "Austrian" GPB, was not merely a change is sub-contractor?

[sjl]

That is my GPB website, and yes - this is a fake Fuess. They started appearing about 1980. About 15-20 years ago we located a batch in different hands all with the same number, making it pretty clear they were being manufactured in batches. They often have repeating numbers usually 3s, 6s and 9s. They are now in at least the 2nd generation - the first one had flaw lines over the oakleaves. The newer ones didn't have the same lines but keep the same regular machine font on the front. The numbers are often taken out of the SS-DAL or made to order to match large fake Deschlers to be sold as a set.

[JoeW]

Gary, this is deja vu all over again. Fuess did make GPBs or at least assemble them. His involvement was discussed in this thread from twelve years ago on the Austrian fakes.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ighlight=fuess

But the thread developed into more discussion of Fuess and his involvement in the GPB. The cast of characters in the thread changed a few years later when "Jos. Fuess" changed his nom-de-plume to Jo Rivett. And unfortunately I see that my posts of the Fuess files from the Hoover Institute are now obscured as I used Photobucket links that have since become deactivated as I didn't pay their price. And as we can't edit after 15 minutes, I can't replace the unviewable images with new images.

[GHP]

...And as we can't edit after 15 minutes, I can't replace the unviewable images with new images.

Joe,


You could repost the images anew. I've done that -- the images end up at the tail end of the thread, but you could add a link to your original post(s).


Cheers,
-- Guy (BTDT)

[JoeW]

Joe,


You could repost the images anew. I've done that -- the images end up at the tail end of the thread, but you could add a link to your original post(s).


Cheers,
-- Guy (BTDT)

You know Guy, I am well aware that I could dig through my old files and re-post all the material I posted eight plus years ago. In fact I have done so with other "articles" I created for information and enlightenment of forum members. I took it on myself to locate the Fuess information and to hire and pay a researcher at the archives to find and print off the information which I posted on the forum for the benefit of all members. And I had to pay for the privilege of posting on this forum for the benefit of all.

But I am sure that most of the older forum members involved in that discussion saved those images of the Fuess report to their files or printed them out. But please tell me of the honors and benefits accruing to a designated "Distinguished Contributor". Do you still have to pay to post images and share your information with the rest of the crowd?

[Volksturmer]

Joe,
That is a good question.
I hope one day, in the future, to have contributed one tenth of what you have contributed here to our hobby.
So,
Will anything - of value, that is- that I have posted still be around in 10 years?
I have, I feel, posted at least some valuable things. Nothing even close to what you have posted. I’m looking to the future.
But I know for sure you have done far more valuable work here.
So, does especially well-researched and conscientious research such as you have done - just go away, or what?
I have read similar stories. Shouldn’t we archive the most valuable information?
I hope that is the case, because there is a wealth of information on WAF. God forbid it should just be ‘deleted’ to make room!
There are some experts that should really have priority and be respected.
I could name them, but everyone knows them. I’m not one, but I can point to them,
Just as the real experts here can.

I’m not being antagonistic- I just want the best for the serious collectors who have invested so much time and effort here, and paid for the privilege.

[der-hase-fee]

Here is 83680 currently being offered at auction.


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[Br. James]

Looks like another 'Austrian Fake' to me, Andreas. Thanks for the heads-up.

Br. James

[der-hase-fee]

83300

Thought I had seen it elsewhere. Now at auction !


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