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**Br. James** · 10-21-2018, 03:12 PM

No idea what make of fountain pen Hitler used to sign...perhaps if we could see more at the top of the photo, including the rest of the pen cap?

I would assume that that is Julius Schaub's right hand seen steadying the photo while Hitler signed it -- and the pen was probably Schaub's, as well! When you have an adjutant, you don't need to worry about carrying anything in your pockets!

Br. James

**ErichS** · 10-22-2018, 04:45 PM

He used a Mont Blanc. I remember seeing a pic of it in a book that was part of a Doctors collection who was at the Nuremberg War trials.

**FrenchVolunteer** · 10-22-2018, 07:06 PM

Hi,

Erich, i think that are thinking of "Hitler's fatal sickness and other secrets of the nazi leaders" by John K. Lattimer, his "Third Reich" collection was sold on June 18, 2016 by Hermann Historica.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_K._Lattimer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNxmST1HA7A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtZLBzS6FWM

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Vince

**ErichS** · 10-22-2018, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by FrenchVolunteer View Post

Hi,

Erich, i think that are thinking of "Hitler's fatal sickness and other secrets of the nazi leaders" by John K. Lattimer, his "Third Reich" collection was sold on June 18, 2016 by Hermann Historica.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_K._Lattimer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNxmST1HA7A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtZLBzS6FWM

See You

Vince

Correct Vince, Lattimer had Hitlers pen.

**Immelmann** · 10-23-2018, 08:03 AM

Hitler himself did not carry a pen on his on his person.
Heinz Linge kept on his person 2 Pelikan f.pens that were ready for use if needed.

**Immelmann** · 10-23-2018, 08:08 AM

Linge was the ultimate valet ...he carried 2 of almost everything Hitler wore...used...looked through...drank...etc..As did Kempka.

**Br. James** · 10-24-2018, 02:21 PM

I have a copy of Dr. John K. Lattimer's book, "Hitler's Fatal Sickness and Other Secrets fo the Nazi Leaders (Hippocrene Books, Inc., 1999) and Erich's reference reminded me that there was something in that book which relates to this discussion, so I've gone through the book and have only found one reference to Hitler and writing implements. On p.65 is a photo of a fountain pen with the following caption: "Fig 69 -- A gold fountain pen given by Hitler to Eva Braun on Christmas. It is a small pen of the most popular design of the day. Hitler's name is engraved at top, with "Weihnachten 1938." It is a "Mont Blanc" fountain pen, which is of excellent quality, of 14 kt gold, of their Gold-fink line, marked "585." Once Hitler started giving pens, the other Nazis all started giving pens, at least that year. Evan Lattimer [Dr. John Lattimer's son] Collection." So here we see that Hitler gave Eva a Mont Blanc pen, though that does not link that German maker of very fine writing implements to Hitler personally.

Thinking further about "doctors" and "Hitler's fountain pen," I then went through Dr. Mark D. Griffith's "Collectors Guide to 'Liberated' Adolf Hitler Memorabilia" (Revised edition, including Volumes I & II, self-published, 1986) and found one reference on this subject. In the book' section titled "Miscellaneous" is a photo of four pens, with this caption: "Fountain pens, all US made, taken from the Berghof. Note the AH monograms. The US made the best pens in the world and were very popular in Europe." The photo is indistinct and no "monogram" can be seen on any of the four pens.

We are left with Immelmann's reference: "Heinz Linge kept on his person 2 Pelikan f.pens that were ready for use if needed." I have Linge's "With Hitler to the End: The Memoirs of Adolf Hitler's Valet" (English translation published by Frontline Books, 2009) and this may be where our colleague found a reference to Hitler and Pelikan fountain pens -- also a German manufacturer of fine writing implements, a competitor of Mont Blanc. Perhaps Immelmann can share the location of his source with us?

Br. James

**Br. James** · 10-24-2018, 03:18 PM

One slight correction: Evan Lattimer is the daughter of Dr. John K. Lattimer, not his son.

With apologies,

Br. James

**Tom B** · 10-24-2018, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by Br. James View Post

I have a copy of Dr. John K. Lattimer's book, "Hitler's Fatal Sickness and Other Secrets fo the Nazi Leaders (Hippocrene Books, Inc., 1999) and Erich's reference reminded me that there was something in that book which relates to this discussion, so I've gone through the book and have only found one reference to Hitler and writing implements. On p.65 is a photo of a fountain pen with the following caption: "Fig 69 -- A gold fountain pen given by Hitler to Eva Braun on Christmas. It is a small pen of the most popular design of the day. Hitler's name is engraved at top, with "Weihnachten 1938." It is a "Mont Blanc" fountain pen, which is of excellent quality, of 14 kt gold, of their Gold-fink line, marked "585." Once Hitler started giving pens, the other Nazis all started giving pens, at least that year. Evan Lattimer [Dr. John Lattimer's son] Collection." So here we see that Hitler gave Eva a Mont Blanc pen, though that does not link that German maker of very fine writing implements to Hitler personally.

Thinking further about "doctors" and "Hitler's fountain pen," I then went through Dr. Mark D. Griffith's "Collectors Guide to 'Liberated' Adolf Hitler Memorabilia" (Revised edition, including Volumes I & II, self-published, 1986) and found one reference on this subject. In the book' section titled "Miscellaneous" is a photo of four pens, with this caption: "Fountain pens, all US made, taken from the Berghof. Note the AH monograms. The US made the best pens in the world and were very popular in Europe." The photo is indistinct and no "monogram" can be seen on any of the four pens.

We are left with Immelmann's reference: "Heinz Linge kept on his person 2 Pelikan f.pens that were ready for use if needed." I have Linge's "With Hitler to the End: The Memoirs of Adolf Hitler's Valet" (English translation published by Frontline Books, 2009) and this may be where our colleague found a reference to Hitler and Pelikan fountain pens -- also a German manufacturer of fine writing implements, a competitor of Mont Blanc. Perhaps Immelmann can share the location of his source with us?

Br. James

Thank you for the info ! Very interesting ! Tom

**Immelmann** · 10-24-2018, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by Br. James View Post

I have a copy of Dr. John K. Lattimer's book, "Hitler's Fatal Sickness and Other Secrets fo the Nazi Leaders (Hippocrene Books, Inc., 1999) and Erich's reference reminded me that there was something in that book which relates to this discussion, so I've gone through the book and have only found one reference to Hitler and writing implements. On p.65 is a photo of a fountain pen with the following caption: "Fig 69 -- A gold fountain pen given by Hitler to Eva Braun on Christmas. It is a small pen of the most popular design of the day. Hitler's name is engraved at top, with "Weihnachten 1938." It is a "Mont Blanc" fountain pen, which is of excellent quality, of 14 kt gold, of their Gold-fink line, marked "585." Once Hitler started giving pens, the other Nazis all started giving pens, at least that year. Evan Lattimer [Dr. John Lattimer's son] Collection." So here we see that Hitler gave Eva a Mont Blanc pen, though that does not link that German maker of very fine writing implements to Hitler personally.

Thinking further about "doctors" and "Hitler's fountain pen," I then went through Dr. Mark D. Griffith's "Collectors Guide to 'Liberated' Adolf Hitler Memorabilia" (Revised edition, including Volumes I & II, self-published, 1986) and found one reference on this subject. In the book' section titled "Miscellaneous" is a photo of four pens, with this caption: "Fountain pens, all US made, taken from the Berghof. Note the AH monograms. The US made the best pens in the world and were very popular in Europe." The photo is indistinct and no "monogram" can be seen on any of the four pens.

We are left with Immelmann's reference: "Heinz Linge kept on his person 2 Pelikan f.pens that were ready for use if needed." I have Linge's "With Hitler to the End: The Memoirs of Adolf Hitler's Valet" (English translation published by Frontline Books, 2009) and this may be where our colleague found a reference to Hitler and Pelikan fountain pens -- also a German manufacturer of fine writing implements, a competitor of Mont Blanc. Perhaps Immelmann can share the location of his source with us?

Br. James

A conversation with the wonderful Traudl Junge after her first venture into books (which she said she regretted) ..Last Witnesses in the Bunker...late 80's.

**Br. James** · 10-25-2018, 08:49 AM

Thanks for the quick response, Immelmann. Apparently "Last Witnesses in the Bunker" was/is a rare publication; my out-of-print book resource has no reference to it. If Traudl Junge referred to Hitler's use of writing implements in that book, is it possible for you to provide a quote?

Many thanks,

Br. James

**Immelmann** · 10-25-2018, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Br. James View Post

Thanks for the quick response, Immelmann. Apparently "Last Witnesses in the Bunker" was/is a rare publication; my out-of-print book resource has no reference to it. If Traudl Junge referred to Hitler's use of writing implements in that book, is it possible for you to provide a quote?

Many thanks,

Br. James

Not in the book but in conversations with her. She felt after contributing that no one would be interested in the Führers domestic details...

**Br. James** · 10-25-2018, 12:43 PM

Thanks again, Immelmann...this is the sort of historic personal information that would benefit our hobby most by being accessible through a publication or other reference source, though I'm not sure how that can happen from here...??

Best regards,

Br. James

**Immelmann** · 10-25-2018, 01:29 PM

Indeed. She was an incredible woman who devoted much of her later years with Munichs blind community and braille books.

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