Hey fellas what are your thought and can you possibly give me some back ground on this eagle please and maybe what it’s worth
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Wood carved eagles are a minefield as it takes a totally different approach from pot metal cast eagles whereby foundry marks or die flaws are present. Wood carvings, if unmarked, can be done by anyone and any period and even using aged wood. It is very hard to ascertain this piece whether it is period or not, unless it can be backed with a solid provenance. Perhaps at best this could be unofficial ones that were sold in the fairs along with the rally (it looks very amateur-ishly made). Clearly it is trying very hard to resemble the textbook nurember desktop pieces.
MilComment
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Good points , well I can tell you in hand that it is very old , it feels very brittle and it was definitely not carved by a weekend warrior in the 1970s , It came as a part of a very prestigious collection. I’m turn I received it from the gentleman who purchased it as a part of said collection. He is very well known in the collection community.Comment
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I appreciate your faith in people "who are well known in the collecting community", considering all the fine qualities they have...should I start before or after "the letter G, for Gottlieb"?Originally posted by Jollygreen19 View Post
"Prestigious collection" or not, it's very poorly done, more reminiscent of a scrap pile project than anything turned out by an experienced wood carver.
It's 4 layers - machined base, followed by chiselled, handcarved plinth, followed by machined base , followed by handcarved eagle. (The construction is not something any woodcarver would do...but a hump-job artist would).
The fit is sloppy, again, not something an experienced wood worker would do. Where the separate pieces "marry up", work would have been done to make the fit more seamless. I won't elaborate more on this, because there are a bunch of ways to do it. This wasn't done, because "the artist" didn't know how.
IMO, it's a put-together display piece. There's nothing wrong with a display piece, unless you're paying "a rare original" price.
If that's the case, and it was my choice, I'd want my money back.Comment
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I agree with Giuseppe. I would ask for my money back if you paid anything more than repo pricing for this. It does not matter whose collection it came out of.Looking for a 30 '06 Chauchat magazine.Comment
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I haven’t paid a dime for it yet, and he said if I absolutely don’t love it when it’s in my hands , all I have to do is return it.Originally posted by Jeff V View PostComment
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My concern with this piece is the wording on the statue's base: "Reichspartei Tag 1933." The two Great Eagles designed and created by Prof. Kurt Schmid-Ehmen for the Luitpold Arena at the Nuremberg Reichsparteitag grounds were not in place for the 1933 NSDAP Congress there. A pair of Great Eagles -- Hoheitsadlern -- made of stone were temporary in place at the Luitpold Arena for the 1934 Party Congress, and they were replaced by permanent cast metal eagles in time for the 1935 Congress. But this piece says: "Reichspartei Tag 1933." Why "1933??"
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Good point, Brother James.
A trained person in woodcraft would also know that the wood would need to be "sealed". The grains are very badly contained in the wood and it seems to be a haphazard way of doing it. As with most members, I wouldn't buy the story nor the fact that it came from a respected collector.
Buy the item and not the story.
MilComment
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"Buy the item and not the story."
Amen, Mil, and a very Happy New Year to you, my friend!
Br. JamesComment
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Amen, Brother James.
In God We Trust.
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