Meat fork from Reichskanzlei?

[Gran Sasso]

This one surfaced at a local fleamarket:

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[Br. James]

Quite a handsome piece, Gran, though I am wondering as to where the idea that this meat fork originated in a service made for the Reichschancellery, since it has no letters -- "R" and "K" -- to identify it as such. On p.110-111 of James Yannes' book, "The Encyclopedia of Third Reich Tableware" (Trafford Publishing, 2013), we see an example of this identical pattern of tableware in a tablespoon attributed by Yannes to the Foreign Ministry of Joachim von Ribbentrop...though the maker's mark is not the same as the piece shown here. The eagle and swastika on this piece is quite similar to the one in Yannes' book, though apparently not quite identical.

Also, if the presentation case seen here is original to this fork, then it must have been a special creation produced as a gift for a special recipient, since an individual fitted presentation case was not prepared for each piece in a whole silver service.

Br. James

[CPB]

I agree - looks like a diplomatic piece, and that case has been added probably to make it seem more of a key serving piece, when it’s probably one of hundreds

[Gran Sasso]

I am wondering as to where the idea that this meat fork originated in a service made for the Reichschancellery

Here:

https://www.weitze.net/militaria/97/...i__279497.html

[Br. James]

Thanks for sharing the source of this piece, Gran, though I cannot agree with Weitze's listing...which is not provided with any period provenance. And I can also say with confidence that the maker's mark on this fork is definitely NOT that of the noted cutlery firm of Peter Bruckmann & Söhne, located in the ancient industrial town of Heilbronn -- the firm that produced the Formal (State) and Informal Pattern silverware for Hitler's tables. I'm surprised that Weitze was not aware of that difference in hallmarks...

Br. James

[Gran Sasso]

Thanks for sharing the source of this piece, Gran, though I cannot agree with Weitze's listing...which is not provided with any period provenance. And I can also say with confidence that the maker's mark on this fork is definitely NOT that of the noted cutlery firm of Peter Bruckmann & Söhne, located in the ancient industrial town of Heilbronn -- the firm that produced the Formal (State) and Informal Pattern silverware for Hitler's tables. I'm surprised that Weitze was not aware of that difference in hallmarks...

Br. James

Thats NOT the source of that fork! This was to answer your quesrion where i got the info from...

[Br. James]

My misunderstanding, Gran, though my comment on the Weitze listing remains true.

Cheers, my friend,

Br. James