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    #76
    Originally posted by chen View Post
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    Wow, you ended up buying all this ???

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      #77
      Well, on the + side, at least no Eva undies involved here.

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        #78
        How much did Adolf's diaries fetch?

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          #79
          How much did the pig tattoo numbers fetch?
          They are used on piglets ears and the larger ones used to slap the buttocks as the pigs get loaded up for the slaughterhouse.

          http://auctions.alexautographs.com/a...age=1&mypage=1

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            #80
            Originally posted by Jo Rivett View Post
            How much did the pig tattoo numbers fetch?
            They are used on piglets ears and the larger ones used to slap the buttocks as the pigs get loaded up for the slaughterhouse.

            http://auctions.alexautographs.com/a...age=1&mypage=1

            4 grand.

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              #81
              Originally posted by CPB View Post
              4 grand.
              Ebay would have been cheaper.

              http://www.ebay.ch/itm/STUNNING-VINT...4AAOSw241Ykfj6
              http://www.ebay.ch/itm/Vintage-pig-e...sAAOSwFV9Xzo~C

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                #82
                This is the joke of the year.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Ankar View Post
                  This is the joke of the year.
                  What is?
                  The phone, the pigs numbers or both?
                  Or the other pure fantasy crap they had listed, like this badge below?
                  http://auctions.alexautographs.com/a...age=0&mypage=1


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                    #84
                    I didn't like that glass with the etched eagle and swaz, either -- surely not from Hitler's table!

                    Br. James

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Br. James View Post
                      I didn't like that glass with the etched eagle and swaz, either -- surely not from Hitler's table!

                      Br. James
                      Actually that wine glass was/is the real deal.

                      https://donmooreswartales.com/2010/09/27/fred-butts-2/

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                        #86
                        Ouch, next thing you know this guy will be auctioning off random lengths of barbed wire, because barbed wire was used at Auschwitz too !

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                          #87
                          Thanks for providing the newspaper article, CPB, but I'm not convinced. GIs had little to no background in the current history and the geography of "the Obersalzberg Administration" and over the decades some have come up with some fanciful stories about what they thought they saw more than 70 years ago. One example is Mr. Butts' reference to what he assumed to be "Hitler's bedroom" in the Kehlsteinhaus -- as we know, Hitler spent very little time up there and apparently didn't enjoy the sense of being enclosed or trapped in that building. What Mr. Butts must have seen was an employee's or a caretaker's sleeping quarters when he was there; to my knowledge, Hitler never spent one over-night at the Kehlsteinhaus.

                          Very interesting anecdote!

                          Br. James

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Br. James View Post
                            Thanks for providing the newspaper article, CPB, but I'm not convinced. GIs had little to no background in the current history and the geography of "the Obersalzberg Administration" and over the decades some have come up with some fanciful stories about what they thought they saw more than 70 years ago. One example is Mr. Butts' reference to what he assumed to be "Hitler's bedroom" in the Kehlsteinhaus -- as we know, Hitler spent very little time up there and apparently didn't enjoy the sense of being enclosed or trapped in that building. What Mr. Butts must have seen was an employee's or a caretaker's sleeping quarters when he was there; to my knowledge, Hitler never spent one over-night at the Kehlsteinhaus.

                            Very interesting anecdote!

                            Br. James
                            Oh I totally agree. I can barely remember what I saw 70 days ago, let alone 70 years.

                            But the layout of the Eagle's Nest aside, the fact is that veteran brought those glasses home with him. Unless, of course, he picked them up afterwards post-war which, while entirely possible, I kind of doubt on this occasion. From what I can see, his glasses match the one that sold last weekend.

                            I would like to own that glass, but not for $4500 plus plus, that's for sure
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                              #89
                              Thanks, CPB. Please be assured that I am not attempting to call into question the remembrances of one of our heroes of WWII, the Greatest Generation, which Mr. Butts undoubtedly is. But over the 55+ years that I've been a part of this wonderful hobby, I have seen many things that flavor my own memories -- not the least of which is the recollection from attending MANY militaria and gun shows over those decades, where I watched 'old-timers' who presented themselves as WWII vets at the tables of disreputable dealers, where they proceeded to purchase so-called "militaria" which I immediately recognized as common fakes. It doesn't take a great imagination to realize that those fake badges, daggers and the like wound up in the collections of bonafide WWII vets, where they would eventually constitute part of the legacy which that vet left for his family when the final rendition of Taps sounded for him.

                              I have not given a great amount of study to the glassware of Hitler's tables, but my impression is that stemware bearing a detailed etching of either a closed-winged eagle or an open-winged eagle sitting atop a wreathed swastika and flanked by an "A" and an "H" -- also occasionally seen colored gold -- are post-war creations. This impression is supported by Dr. Mark Griffith's combined volume titled "Collectors Guide to 'Liberated' Adolf Hitler Memorabilia," wherein a few pages are dedicated to glassware found at the Obersalzberg Administration, and none of Griffith's examples resemble the glassware from Mr. Butts' collection. Now as we know, just as Hitler's silverware was apparently the gift of wealthy benefactors or those who sought to ingratiate themselves with Hitler in this manner -- which includes Martin Bormann, Gerdy Troost and Albert Speer -- much of the memorabilia that was found and 'liberated' from the Berghof, the Kehlsteinhaus, the Mooslahnerkopf and the several other locations which Hitler called 'home' over the years were actually gifts for countless holidays and special occasions on which presents of all sorts poured into Hitler's front doors. And many of these pieces included monograms of all sorts -- none of which had been 'approved' by Hitler or those who were trusted to make such choices on his behalf.

                              We continue to evolve in this hobby as we accumulate more and more information on a brief period of history that fascinates us!

                              Br. James

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by CPB View Post
                                Oh I totally agree. I can barely remember what I saw 70 days ago, let alone 70 years.
                                With me it is about 7. Days, not years.
                                I wish i could remember more, like this guy.
                                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=355895

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