armband original?

[wahnsinn_opc]

Hello,
I need your help, the two original armbands shown? thank you


her the link


http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...88#post6906488

[luftwaffe blue]

alles in ordnung

[wahnsinn_opc]

Hello . Thanks for your answer. ....
Danke für deine Antwort ...

More opinions?
Weitere Meinungen ?

Thanks

[okkultist]

I have mixed feelings about them. Red fabric looks OK, construction is OK.... but I really do not like white fabric and black stripes. Oweral impression is rather "no" then "yes". I do not want them for my collection.

[Erich B.]

I have to agree. The swastika and disc fabric look odd to me, as do the uneven seaming at the rear of the red fabric.
Erich

[luftwaffe blue]

I still like them bar the single rear stitching, saying that, if people are saying these are fake, alot of people on this section best check their own armbands, as lots of these like this have been in the past been given the green light

[wahnsinn_opc]

So it or copy ???

[Erich B.]

As long as the white fields do not react under UV, IMO they are both original. After re-studying the images, I think the flash changed the apparent character of the white cloth, making it appear to be a looser weave than normally seen, but I don't believe that's the case. At least from the photos, I believe them to be fine.
Erich

[wahnsinn_opc]

Hello, tomorrow I will test if the uv light or not.

[Tom Yanacek]

Hello,

They seem to be okay to me. Do they have paper RZM labels on the inside, or remnants of a paper label, or a glue spot where maybe a label once was?

Best regards,
Tom

[wahnsinn_opc]

Hello , the armband Light no UV. . Is it good or Bad ?

no , not labels ....

[luftwaffe blue]

alles in ordnung

Alles in ordnung..ich glaube

[wahnsinn_opc]

Alles in ordnung..ich glaube

Hallo Danke für deine Antwort.
Hello thanks for your answer. ..

[Gary Symonds]

As long as the white fields do not react under UV, IMO they are both original. After re-studying the images, I think the flash changed the apparent character of the white cloth, making it appear to be a looser weave than normally seen, but I don't believe that's the case. At least from the photos, I believe them to be fine.
Erich

Erich, in the summer of 2011, I wrote an article in The International Medal Collector, Dietrich Maerz's publication, entitled The Black Light Test Revisited.

The "Black Light Test" is based on the premise that if a textile made before 1945 "glows" under an ultra violet light, that proves that piece of cloth is a reproduction because the chemicals that react to the black light and glow, did not exist before 1945.

In that article I showed patents going back to the 1930s, proving that the flourescent brighteners used to intensify the color white have been in commercial use well before 1945. I show evidence that these chemical flourescent whiteners actually go back to 1929!

It is these chemical flourescent whiteners that react to 365nm of an ultra violet light, by flourescing back the bright blueish white light that is obvserved in the so-called "Black Light Test."

I am posting the link to that article. Scroll down to the bottom of the page, and the article is in a pdf file.

Maybe these facts may change somebody's mind about the validity of the so-called "Black Light Test."

Based on the huge number of collector myths in this hobby, Probably Not.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=675024

Gary

[Gary Symonds]

Moderator, Erich B:

Hopefully you have read my article about the Black Light Test.

Maybe, you even consulted fellow Moderator Detrich Maerz as to his scientific opinion of the Black Light Test. After all, the article was published in his magazine.

I would respectfully request that you as a Moderator and certainly part of your duty as a Moderator of a major forum, post an advisement in the Poltical Organizations Forum, when the subject comes up in the normal course of business, whether you will advise the members that the Black Light Test is or is not a valid tool for reproduction recognition.