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    Alter Kampfer - new found

    Hi , it's a new find in Sopot, Gdansk area. How do You like it ?
    Best Regards
    Grzegorz
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        #4
        what is name the badge exactly is???first time see this>>>

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          #5
          Congratulations! Very Rare badge in the best type...real nice one

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            A link to some more discussion: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=alter+kampfer

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              gau what?

              Originally posted by gt1234 View Post
              How do You like it ?
              Best Regards
              Grzegorz
              Personally I do not like it.
              I think this type of badge never existed prior to 1945. In fact I think it did not exist prior to 1985. By 'this type' I mean the badge with no ties on its sides.
              Before anyone jumps out with the 'proof' that Forster badge is of this type in his well know pic (white tunic)- it is not. His badge survived and it is of Paul Kust variety.
              Bit heavy on the patina gel- spilled some on the swastika.

              cheers

              Matt

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                Odd seeing a .925 silver proof on a piece of German made silver. Probably not impossible, but from my experience I'd expect to see .800 (European coin), or perhaps .835, which is, I believe, the more commonly seen equivalent of a German "sterling" mark...Just food for thought.

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                  very strange opinion I saw this type od this badge "from the ground",found near of Danzig in 90late...This rarest type of this badge was sold a many serious delalers around the world...and exists in very serious collections.You can see it in Detlev N.catalog also.

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                    I think it's a very nice badge. I know that these so-called first pattern badges are faked but this one looks good to me.

                    I can't understand Matthews comments that this type is post 1985. A very nice example with lots of provenance surfaced several years ago in a grouping but it sold before I could get photos.

                    Matt, what evidence to you have to make this claim?

                    Stan

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                      #11
                      Altough I have only limited knowledge about these badges I have to say I like this badge a lot by its looks.
                      Kind regards,
                      Giel

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                        Hi Matthew , this Alter Kampfer was find together with two other badges. Do You think , they are made after 1985 , too?

                        Best Regards

                        Grzegorz

                        Originally posted by Matthew View Post
                        Personally I do not like it.
                        I think this type of badge never existed prior to 1945. In fact I think it did not exist prior to 1985. By 'this type' I mean the badge with no ties on its sides.
                        Before anyone jumps out with the 'proof' that Forster badge is of this type in his well know pic (white tunic)- it is not. His badge survived and it is of Paul Kust variety.
                        Bit heavy on the patina gel- spilled some on the swastika.

                        cheers

                        Matt
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