Warning: session_start(): open(/var/cpanel/php/sessions/ea-php74/sess_79ec1882d10843c195f2fe38db8c8f0f8d6a2e1ed0e4f628, O_RDWR) failed: No space left on device (28) in /home/devwehrmacht/public_html/forums/includes/vb5/frontend/controller/page.php on line 71 Warning: session_start(): Failed to read session data: files (path: /var/cpanel/php/sessions/ea-php74) in /home/devwehrmacht/public_html/forums/includes/vb5/frontend/controller/page.php on line 71 Beer hall putch - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums
Kampfgruppe

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Beer hall putch

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    #16
    Originally posted by Br. James View Post
    Thanks for providing the member's pages from this Pg's NSDAP Membership Book. Very interesting...he was a local boy from Munich, and early on he went to work at the Brown House, for the RZM. One wonders why it took him so long to join or re-join the Party after his participation in the Putsch, given his close association with the major players? He should have been entitled to the GPB as well as the BO!

    Br. James
    Yes James, interesting regarding him having a high party number, hence no GPB.

    Don't forget that Sister Pia for example, wasn't awarded the GPB either because she most likely felt party membership was automatic since she was awarded both the Blood Order and Coburg Badge.

    Comment


      #17
      Hi Erich,

      Indeed those must have been nearly-overwhelming days during the Kämpfzeit -- a swirl of activity crowded into each new day, and especially for those close to the center of it all, in Munich! From the documentation here, we know that Pg Hennig received NSDAP Membership Number 263059 when he joined the NSDAP on July 1, 1930. It's just speculation, of course, but from his Blood Order we know that he belonged to SA-Regiment Augsburg at the time of the Putsch and we also know that early SA members often assumed that their SA memberships were the same as...and as good as...Party membership itself. This turned out to be untrue, but by the time an SA man discovered that his SA membership did not also give him NSDAP membership, it was often into the 1930s and the first 100,000 membership numbers of the NSDAP had already been assigned! Of course, people in the 1920s or even the early 1930s did not know that the Party would one day recognize and reward the first 100,000 members with unbroken NSDAP membership with the immensely socially-valuable Golden Party Badge either. So goes life!

      From the documentation we know that Pg Hennig was a merchant by trade, so he may have originally been a member of the DAP or the very early NSDAP. He joined -- or re-joined -- the NSDAP on July 1, 1930 when he was 32 years old. He would have been 25 at the time of his participation in the Putsch and, if he had joined the DAP in 1919 at it's founding, he would have been 21. All these speculations are possibilities...but just speculations!

      Cheers, my friend,

      Br. James

      Comment


        #18
        Originally posted by ErichS View Post
        Yes James, interesting regarding him having a high party number, hence no GPB.
        Despite the fact that he wouldn't have had the GPB as a wearable sign of being an early party member, I wouldn't call a 200,000 number a high number.

        Erich
        Festina lente!

        Comment


          #19
          Originally posted by Erich B. View Post
          Despite the fact that he wouldn't have had the GPB as a wearable sign of being an early party member, I wouldn't call a 200,000 number a high number.

          Erich
          Meant a high number considering his service during the KZ.

          Comment


            #20
            Dear both Erichs,

            I agree with both of you! An NSDAP membership number issued on July 1, 1930 is certainly a part of the recognized Kämpfzeit and would have qualified Pg Hennig to wear one large silver cuff ring (a very impressive 12mm wide) on his SA-Traditions Brown Shirt as well as on his SA tunic later into the 1930s. And I would assume that Hennig permanently wore the BO rosette on his right uniform pocket flap for all to envy...even though he was not able to also wear the very distinctive GPB on his uniforms and civil dress. Alas, even faithful veterans of the Time of Struggle were uneven in their public recognition!

            Cheers, friends,

            Br. James

            Comment


              #21
              Originally posted by ErichS View Post
              Meant a high number considering his service during the KZ.
              Okay--I agree with that!
              Erich
              Festina lente!

              Comment


                #22
                Originally posted by Br. James View Post
                Dear both Erichs,

                I agree with both of you! An NSDAP membership number issued on July 1, 1930 is certainly a part of the recognized Kämpfzeit and would have qualified Pg Hennig to wear one large silver cuff ring (a very impressive 12mm wide) on his SA-Traditions Brown Shirt as well as on his SA tunic later into the 1930s.

                Cheers, friends,

                Br. James
                Actually, the SA length of service stripes were based only on SA membership and not party membership. I can't find his SA dates of service on these images, but he well might have earned the right to wear more sleeve stripes.
                Erich
                Festina lente!

                Comment


                  #23
                  Right you are, Erich. My ruminations are merely speculation, based upon very few facts. We know Hennig was an SA-Mann at the time of the Putsch -- from Patzwall's BO list showing him as belonging to SA-Standart Augsburg -- but we don't know if he continued to serve in the SA after its reorganization in early 1925. A number of the early SA members were frightened off by the high treason trials of the leaders of the Nazis, Bund Oberland, Reichskriegsflagge and related groups. If Hennig had rejoined the SA in early 1925 he would have been entitled to the maximum in cuff rings -- two wide and two narrow.

                  Br. James

                  Comment

                  Users Viewing this Thread

                  Collapse

                  There are currently 7 users online. 0 members and 7 guests.

                  Most users ever online was 10,032 at 08:13 PM on 09-28-2024.

                  Working...
                  X