Hi ,i have been interested in german militaria for some time and have a small collection.I have recently purchased a plaque in a red leatherette case ,it is dark bronze in colour. and has kassel reichwettskampe des ns fliegerkorps around the winged man and dated 12:14.8 1938.There is a blue card belik Verkunde then signed Oberkniff Saunich .it then says wied als teilnehmer an den Reichwettskampfen 1938 in kaffel die Grinnerungsplakette des ns -fliegerkorps zuerkannt.kasel,am 14Auguft 1938. Der korpsfuhrer des NS fliegerkorps Fr chris????????? Generalleutnant .It is embossed with the german eagle stamp and has white padding with goldwriting Nationalsozialistisches Fliegerkorps Der korpsfuhrer..phew!can anyone tell me. a . what it was awarded for. b.a translation i have only seen simular ones on google with typed names.Apologies for lack of photograph i am hoplesd with posting,but will learn,and i hope i have found a site that can appreciate the magnificent items produced by the gemans,as i have been ignored so many times.Best regards to all here and hello from a newbie who wants to buy real german items instead of fakes.ib.
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The text of your table medal seems to be pretty standard fare. As you see more, you will be able to recognize specific German lettering and phrases.Originally posted by zentsuji2 View Post
Your table medal reads around the winged man (NSFK logo): "Kassel (city) National Games of the NS Flying Corps 12-14 August 1938"
I am confused with your next sentence: There is a blue card belik (?) Verkunde (this is probably Urkunde- presentation document)
then signed Oberkniff (? this would be a rank but don't recognize it) Saunich (officer' s name) .
it then says wied als teilnehmer an den Reichwettskampfen 1938 in kaffel die Grinnerungsplakette des ns -fliegerkorps zuerkannt.kasel,am 14Auguft 1938. Der korpsfuhrer des NS fliegerkorps Fr chris????????? Generalleutnant.
This means "Presented as a participant in the National Games 1938 in Kassel
the Remembrance meal of the National Socialist Flying Corps presented Kassel on the 14 August 1938. The Corps Commander of the NS Flying Corps Friedrich Christianson, Leutenant General".
It is embossed with the german eagle stamp and has white padding with goldwriting Nationalsozialistisches Fliegerkorps Der korpsfuhrer ("It" ? I suppose this is a description of the inside of the lid of the case?)
In the future, may I suggest that you slow down when typing, reread for clarity. Good luck in your collecting. -
Hi, and welcome among us! Your note is indicative of the excitement generated by this unique hobby which is shared by each and every one of us! And I don't think you will be "ignored" here, though some of us have less time than others to write longer notes in response...but you shouldn't think that a brief reply is in any way intended to downplay the importance of your question, your interest or your commitment to our hobby.
JoeW has provided a comprehensive response to your question, and there isn't much I can add to it. As your focus of interest develops in terms of particular collecting fields, you will want to learn more and more about a new addition to one of your collections...such as the cased commemorative medallion you described. I would suggest that you try to purchase a copy of a book titled "NSKK, NSFK: Uniforms, Organisation & History" by John R. Angolia and David Littlejohn -- two giants in the field of Third Reich collecting who began writing books as early as the 1960s. This book was published by R. James Bender Publishing (another giant in this hobby) in 1994 and who remains a leader in the publishing field. This book may even still be available through Bender Publishing of San Jose, California, and it should be easily found through other book sources.
I mention this book, not only for the general background it will certainly provide you, but also because a photo of what appears to be your medallion is found on p.443, though not in color, and it is only shown in obverse.
Reference works such as this one will soon familiarize you with the fraktur (German gothic) typeface of earlier Third Reich publications and documents of the period. The document described by Joe is a "Besitz-Urkunde" -- literally a "Possession Certificate" akin to an award document -- and was presented with each medallion. Copies of similar certificates are also shown in the Angolia/Littlejohn book.
Normally such certificates included the name of the person to whom the document was presented, as well as the facsimile signature of the leader of the NSFK, Korpsführer Friedrich Christiansen. I am afraid that I also don't recognize the rank of "Oberkniff;" if it was hand-written then it may be a proper first name and not a rank.
Just some thoughts I'd like to offer, and again, you are very welcome here! Cheers and happy collecting,
Br. JamesComment
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thanks and apologies
Thanks for the reply,the rank is hand written oberxxxx i will post a picture.Thankyou for your time in explaining this plaque.I also apologise for poor typing bt my phone is small and my fingers are fat,the family hog the main computer and i am left with a 4" screen.Is the plaque common?best regards to you both .ianb.Comment
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Welcome.
Hi and Welcome to the Forum. You may wish to pay the dues here and become an Association member which will give you the ability to download and post photos in your threads. Since you're looking for original items you can also peruse the Forums E-Stand which sells quality, original TR Merch at collector to collector prices most of the time. I just happened to pickup a TR NSFK table medal a few days ago doing just that.
Good luck,
Pete
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Here are a bronze and silver example of the same award for different events.Comment
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same as mine exactly
my plaque is the same but the signature is hand written not typed,i paid a bit for it but at least its genuine.What are they worth?ianOriginally posted by rlimike View PostComment
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