Need Id on these items

[militarymania]

Are they SA-NSKK or what??,,thanks,<Robert

[militarymania]

next shoulder board

SA??,,,what gruppe??

[sgstandard]

Items

A. NSKK Enlisted Rank Shoulder Board (Probably Berlin)
B. SA Sturmfuhrer Collar Tab, Gruppe Niederrhein, Pre 1938
C. SA Enlisted Rank Shoulderboard, Gruppe Hessen (NOTE: The button should
be SILVER, not gold colored.) 1933-1937

[sgstandard]

Tab

I'm interested in the collar tab if it's for sale or trade.