Eagle.

[Maciej G]

Hi. I have the possibility to buy an eagle.
I wanted to know your opinion. It is strange for me the issue.

Best regards.

Maciej G.

[Br. James]

Hi Maciej,

This eagle looks strange to me, too! Don't think I've ever seen anything like it, though it is apparently designed to resemble the DE Standard w/name box. I would assume it to be a fantasy piece...unless someone here has further experience of similar pieces?

Br. James

[mrec27777]

hello, i can"t tell from pics ,but ,does this piece have a hanging devise on bacK ... EC

[Military]

Never seen such a design before. I see it as two-ways: either a total fantasy; or a one-off commissioned piece. One way is to trace back from the original maker or WMF; which if you collect antique tableware, etc, the WMF belong to a metalware factory called Württembergische Metallwarenfabrik AG (or Metalware Factory of Wuerttemberg). I have never seen any TR pieces made by them. Perhaps some other collectors might chime in. (my opinion of the WMF stamp in this piece is poorly marked).

Mil

[wilhelm Saris]

?? for me fantasy. I would not trust it!!
The WMF marking is not as according the mid-1930's or later years. The W is indeed above the other two, but the left lower V-point, fitted in those days in the middle part for the M, the second lower V-point was situated between the top of the right leg of the M and next to the F. All within a square.
Sorry, but I cannot show pictures, so I try to explain!

[Br. James]

I'm glad that both Mil and Wim have commented on this piece; they are both very knowledgeable here! One last question: there appears to be a word or some sort of mark at the top of this bird's right wing (the left when facing the piece), though I'm unable to make it out. Can you provide a closeup of this wing top, Maciej?

As to your originally-stated intention of possibly buying this piece: I think you have a reliable response now!

Cheers, my fiiend, and take heart: there are many more eagles out there -- good ones, too!

Br. James

[Military]

Would agree with Br. James. Go for a textbook piece that you can't go wrong.
Railway eagles are also nice and they tend to be available on the e-stand from time to time.

Mil

[Maciej G]

Hi.

At first thank you for all your comments.

This is a very controversial and unusual bird.
I have only three last photo. It may be helpful.

Each next word will be helpful.

Best regards.

Maciej G.

[Military]

Hi,

Thanks for the additional photos. Give us a bit of a background - where did you come across this piece? i.e. country? or dealer?
it looks very convincingly aged; but the paint looks too fresh unless it was very well stored, etc.

I still don't like this piece, but as I pointed out, could be a one-off commissioned item, or a fantasy.

Mil

[Maciej G]

Hi.

The official version: found the ceiling in the renovation of the building in Austria.
Is this true? I do not know!! It is available for purchase, the seller wants 800 Euros!

Best regards.

Maciej G.

[mrec27777]

still no attachment pics ? .. EC

[mrec27777]

OK, i see the 3 three nail holes ..was not hung/bolted .... EC

[Waffe]

Just an observation:
The rectangle below the wreath is part of the overall stamping (looks like thin aluminum), but the "name plaque" is a separate piece that seems to be pinned/riveted onto the rectangle, and wrapped around the edges.


Regards,
Kent

[mrec27777]

i would do more reserch be fore i would turn it down ...lots of "uncommon" items were produced as we all know during the THIRD REICH , just my HO ..... EC

[Maciej G]

Hi. I can't get more pictures! That's all!
With these objects are no simple answers!
Thank you for all your comments.

Best regards.

Maciej G.