Confirmation on Diplomate Sleeve Insignia

[xmember]

Hello,

I purchased 2 sleeve insignia's from a dealer some time ago and was hoping to keep these but I have decided to focus my collection in a different area and put these up on e-stand. Before I do, I would ask for your professional opinion so there are no questions. I'm not an expert but somebody that appreciated the design of these patches.
Thanks for your help.
Regards
Rudy

First is insignia for Pay Group B7 - B9.

[xmember]

Pay Group B7 - B9

[xmember]

Should have mentioned both patches have been cut off from the uniform which you can tell from the pictures.

[xmember]

Pay Group B 3 b and 4.

[xmember]

Pay Group B 3 b and 4

[xmember]

The reverse shown here on the pay grade B 3 b and 4 is identical to the reverse of the first one I showed.

[germanpolice]

Total rubbish, the workmanship is laughable

[Gary Symonds]

Total rubbish, the workmanship is laughable

Herr germanpolice:
This is a conclusion. Just exactly what is wrong with the workmanship? This appears to have not only period workmanship, but also period materials and construction.

How about treating us to some facts for once.

[xmember]

Thanks Gary. I was being patient hoping "germanpolice" would provide an example to compare with what he says is "rubbish". Like I said, I'm no expert and a little guidance would be very helpful. Plus, this thread could help many other people who might want to collect these type of patches. I do know there are a few variants on the patches and that is about it.
Regards
Rudy

[germanpolice]

This is a well known reproduction if you do a search they will come up and you will see the obvious differences, Gary nothing about this insignia is period, I dont know where you are looking to even think these are real. HERE is a REAL one

[klr]

The workmanship on diplomatic insignia is very high quality. I don't own any diplomatic insignia but if you look at the quality of these SS tabs you will see the quality you should see in original diplomatic insignia.

[Gary Symonds]

This is a well known reproduction if you do a search they will come up and you will see the obvious differences, Gary nothing about this insignia is period, I dont know where you are looking to even think these are real. HERE is a REAL one

germanpolice:
You are comparing one hand embroidered insignia to another hand embroidered insignia. They are all unique. I fail to see how the one you posted is any better than the other one you said was rubbish.

By the way, what reference books do you have concerning diplomatic insignia?

[Silesien]

Those fake insignias are not only laughable, but are downright goofy looking; those eagles look like squating square-headed no-neck gooney-birds; the sloppy loose bullion of the swastikas sticks out especially in the center, like a fat broad's belly; the overall horrendous workmanship doesn't resemble at all original superb 3dReich period bullion workmanship,- the loosely-woven ugly pcs of crap however, do represent current Pakistani endeavors.
Yes, you are right, hand embroidered bullion insignias differ slightly in their uniqueness; but these things posted are outta the ballpark.
Gary, what reference book are you using concerning Diplo insignias? I'm looking at pictures of 2 finely-embroidered originals on page 24 of The Phoenix Exchange Militaria Magazine Spring 1998, article "Uniforms: Diplo & Ministerial Offzs" by Jill Halcomb, & even tho the insignias differ a bit, they both exhibit the fine quality of 3dReich mfg, with no comparisons to those made-for-flea-market garbage posted.

[xmember]

Thank you gents for your comments. I'm satisfied now. I think this can be closed.
Regards
Rudy

[germanpolice]

Here is another real one.